Database Designer App

Hi,
I need to make a database designer type application.
Where there are floating list boxes that can be moved around. Each of the list boxes will represent a tables and you can drag relationships between the list boxes which will create a line mapping the rows of the list boxes.
kinda like sql server or any type of RDB mapping tool.
Not really sure even how to start with the movable list boxes. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
-J

Nevermind, i found flexMDI which seems to work.
But not sure how to draw the lines and also be able to select the lines between the windows.

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The 'original' database development program is still being
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www.dbase.com
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"Chris Seymour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Was curious to see what database design software people
were using?
> I have been looking around and have some ideas but I
like to check what
> others are using.
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We have used Erwin quite sucessfully, but it's not cheap.
"Rottier, Pascal" <Rottier.Pascalpmintl.ch> on 02/15/2001 04:51:01 AM
To: 'Forte Users' <forte-userslists.xpedior.com>
cc:
Subject: (forte-users) Round-trip database design
Hi,
Maybe not 100% the right mailing list but it's worth a try.
Does anyone use tools to automatically update the structure of an existing
database?
For example, you have a full database model (Power Designer) and you've
created a script to create all these tables in a new and empty database.
You've been using this database and filling tables with data for a while.
Now you want to do some marginal modifications on these tables. Add a
column, remove a column, rename a column, etc.
Is there a way to automatically change the database without losing data and
without having to do it manually (except the manual changes in the (Power
Designer) model).
Thanks
Pascal Rottier
Atos Origin Nederland (BAS/West End User Computing)
Tel. +31 (0)10-2661223
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Hello Pascal,
Forte has classes which might be able to scan the database structure
(DBColumnDesc,etc.). Express use this classes to determine how the
BusinessClass looks like. We use Forte to create the tables,indexes and
constraints. We have the Problem that the above described classes are only
readable but not fillable. The solution for us will be to create our own
classes in
the same manner than existing classes are. So we are able to make updates in
the database structure and maybe able to change the database tables with tool
code. Another reason for us to have the database structure in the
application is the
ability to see the table structure on which the Forte code works always up
to date
with the code. You are always able to compare the structure of the database
with
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