Datacopy from Dynamic Calc member

Hi All,
Within a dense dimension(Accounts) I want to copy data from dynamic calc member to a stored member. Below is the structure of my dimension.
Member X (~, Stored)
Member A (Dynamic calc, TBLast)
----Member A1 (Dynamic Calc)
----Member A2 (Dynamic Calc)
----Member A3 (Member formula, Dynamic Calc, TBFirst)
Now I want to copy data from Member A to Member X. I believe we cannot copy from Member A because it is a dynamic calc member, instead we can write a script which adds the children of Member A1, A2 and A3 provided A3 did not have member formula. I hope i'm right. Any suggestions will be highly appreciated. Using ver 11.1.13.
Thanks

Kevin,
Unfortunately, I think this is the way it works. DATACOPY will not copy dynamically calculated members to stored members.
Although it is not in the DATACOPY Tech Ref documentation, that's the way it works.
Here are some older threads on the "other" board:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/58296/thread/1184768427/DATACOPY+Help
http://www.network54.com/Forum/58296/thread/1054220911/Datacopy+Problem
You are going to have to come up with another way of copying the Scenario by summing the members into the target Scenario. It can be a pain because you're going to have to mind the creation of the blocks. SET CREATEBLOCKONEQ will be your friend on this one.
Regards,
Cameron Lackpour

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