Define one logical system for PI or multiple LS for 3rd-party system?

Hi gurus,
We are using IDOC2SOAP and SOAP2IDOC scenario in PI7.11. My question is regarding the logical system(or partner profile) on R3 side. We have two 3rd party system:A and B, so we have two choices.
1. define one single logical system for PI integration server;
2. define two logical systems for A and B.
For choice 1, it seems we can only use one business sytem or business component (business service in 7.0) as the two 3rd party system, especially for SOAP2IDOC scenario.
For choice 2, it seems we have no restrictions.
Is it correct?Any help will be appreciated.

technically you can use both options.
The question is - do you want all the IDOCs in your R3 system to appear as though they were sent from the PI?
What if a lot of 3rd party systems were sending the same IDOC (for example - ORDERS) and you want to investigate only those who were sent from system A?
I like it configured that every system will be identified by a name I give it.
I just use the IDOC communication channel checkbox of "Take Sender from Payload"
or use a different service in the IBC that has a different logical system configured in its Adapter specific identifiers.
Hope it helps,
Imanuel Rahamim.

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I am trying to send customer invoice to an external system via PI with IDoc type INVOIC02. I have done the basic setting for the output type ZRD0 to transfer the document via. EDI.
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Transfer IDOC immediately
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I manual add ZRD0,
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When Condition Record is maintained in VV31
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Refer my responses in the following SDN thread:
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