Derivation rules: problems w/ time-dependence
Community!
I have an issue with the derivation rules after an organizational restructuring which occured <u>during</u> the fiscal year.
Let's say we have the following derivation rules:
Derivation Rule 1 (before organizational change from 01.01.2006):
a -> b -> c
Derivation Rule 2 (after organizational change - from 01.07.2006):
a -> c
Now (in regards to a restatement for the year 2006) I want to switch off the derivation rule 1 for the second half of the year. Therefore I can only limit the valid-to date of the entries, but not of the derivation rule 1 itself!
When I try to book something after the 01.07.2006, an error exception is coming up, telling that derivation rule 1 is missing the correct entry. But I actually don't want this rule to be valid after 01.07.2006!!!!! I only want Rule 2 to be valid for this time-period!
Is there a possibility to limit the complete derivation rule so that SAP will not jump inside and look for a valid entry? Or, do you have any other ideas on how to solve this problem?
Thanks for your help in advance,
Bjoern
Hi,
Good evening and greetings,
Please go through the following link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005vp/helpdata/en/57/749fe2d51811d189f30000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
Also go through the following SAP OSS Note
Note 458951 - Derivation rules with validity date
Please reward points if found useful
Thanking you
With kindest regards
Ramesh Padmanabhan
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Short text
Calculate Balance Sheet Adjustment
Description
A balance sheet eadjustment distributes
receivables and payables in customer and vendor reconciliation accounts,
tax postings,
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This process ensures the zero balance per business area necessary for creating business area balance sheets.
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Readjustments are calculated for the marked documents and stored in special tables.
This subfunction is described below.
The calculated readjustments are read and then distributed and posted in total to the appropriate accounts.
Fields Included in Readjustment
Readjustments are made for business areas if the function for business area balance sheets is activated in the company code in question. Readjustments are also made for trading partner business areas if the function for business area consolidation is activated.
If Profit Center Accounting is activated in the controlling area allocated to the company code, readjustments are made for profit centers as well as trading partner profit centers.
Note
The fields included in readjustment are determined when the original document is posted. Thus, the customizing settings for business areas and profit centers must be made prior to posting the first document. If these settings were not made, you can still mark posted documents for balance sheet readjustment by executing the subfunction for setting up the balance sheet readjustment (see below).
Basis for Distribution
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Carrying Out the Distribution
Readjustments are transfer postings which create one or more account assignments (not blank) for the unspecified account assignments in original documents.
Scheduling the Program Run
You can run this program as often as you like.
Requirements
Account Determination
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To distinguish readjustment postings from other postings, you should create separate adjustment accounts and have the readjustments posted to them.
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For more information on automatic postings, see the Implementation Guide.
Output
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Note:
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Additional Information
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Spro -PSFM-FMG-Master Data-Allocation to account assignment from other components -select derivation steps
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K. Rajendra Prasad RaoYou need to check the following for the material cost to appear in network costing:
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