DESKTOP USERS NEED ABILITY TO EDIT START MENU

One cannot currently edit the Windows 10 Tech Preview Start Menu, in the Windows 7 and earlier manner.  Desktop users need this ability back, pronto.
For example, one cannot right-click an empty folder in the Start Menu and choose to delete it.  To delete an empty folder from the start menu, one must navigate to C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs,
then delete the offending folder or file, then LOGOUT and log back in for the changes to take effect.
We ALSO need the ability to organize the "metro-style" apps into a folder, sort them, drag-and-drop them, etc., etc., just like any other program.  Currently, on this PC I have over 70 "metro-style" apps installed.  In the "All
Apps" view of the Start Menu, I now have to scroll past 70 items just to get to the "regular" programs installed on the PC.  Not good.  Not good at all.
I hope the development team has this on their plate or, if not, is listening.  This one is very important to desktop users!!

I agree whole heartedly with Furry Panther poster but think the problem is more basic than that.  To address the concerns of LuisHMex, this variation on the start menu issue is very much an IT consern.  I've already documented this issue here Remote
Install Customize Start Menu but was asked to go to TechNet because the other site was too consumer oriented. 
This one issue more than any other has stopped us from deploying Windows 8 on our 14,000 computers and it seems to be continuing on to 10.  I have a software library of 200 titles that have to be installed remotely after imaging.  There seems
to be no way to publish these applications to the start menu via script and it is not feasible to have group policies for every subset of software.  Not only do they need to show up, but show up before the Metro style apps.  We'd get non stop calls
to the help desk if users had to scroll right to find an app they are looking for.  I'd love to have a start screen category called "desktop apps" where I could publish all the titles installed post imaging.
Going beyond that, has anyone ever installed Smart Notebook?  It installs 15 icons of different utilities.  I was hoping that the start screen would support folders like an Android or iPhone does.  While the start screen is friendly with one
button access, it is difficult to find the tile you want due to the sheer number of tiles available.  With this new hybrid start menu, perhaps all the desktop apps could go back to the Win7 style menu with folders and leave the Metro one for the start
screen style part.  It just needs a way to manage that separation. 

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