Difference betn credit memo n credit memo for returns

Hi,
What is difference betn credit memo n credit memo for returns?

Hi
CREDIT MEMO:
Suppose, you have chrged (Price) the customer more or you have charged the customer for say 10 pieces but you have send actually 8 pieces,for which customer has paid you.
In both the above scenarios, you need to pay back the excess amount paid by him.
To payback, we create a Billing document called Credit memo. In standard SAP, Billing Type G2 is created for Credit memo.
This Credit memo(G2) is created with reference to a Credit memo request (Sales document type) with Order type "CR".
This Credit memo Request (CR) is created either with reference to Sales order or Billing document.
Ofcourse, it can also be created with out any reference document also. In real time scenario, we normally create this Credit memo Request with reference to the Billing document (Invoice).
No Delivery takes place in this scenario while creating a Credit memo (G2).
CREDIT FOR RETURN
When goods are physically returned back by the customer due to some complaint, then we first, create a Return order(Order Type RE) with reference to either Sales order or Billing document. Normally, in real time scenarios, we refer the Billing document.
Return order can also be created with out any reference .
In situation like, suppose you had sent 10 pieces of certain material to the customer for which he has paid. But he found that 2 pieces are defective or damaged in transit. So he has returned it to you for which you need to create a Return order(RE).
From this Return order(RE) -
> Return Delivery is created -
> PGR.
As customer has returned the goods to you, then there are 2 options with you. Either you may send fresh stock ,which we normally call "Replacement" OR you may pay back the value for the returned goods.
If, we pay back, then we create a Credit memo for return, which called "Credit for Return" and in standard SAP represented by Billing Type (RE).
In standard system, this "Credit for Return(RE)" is ALWAYS created with reference to the "Return Order(RE)".
Even though, physical delivery takes place in return process, still the "Credit for return(RE)" is created with reference to the "Return order(RE)".
If, client requires it to be created from Return delivery then you need to establish necessary settings in customisation which has already beed discussed in this forum several times.
Hope, it is clear.
Regards

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Usually there is a functional different between the normal PO and return PO. When you combine together
the following questions are popped up im my head.
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Q3. When you perform GI (for returns), How did you perform?
Q4. How the invoice identify whether it is meant for normal PO or return PO (Ofcourse - return PO, we ususally do credit memo)
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Freight on credit memo for returns PO

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We did that before as well, Even as we select it, it creates 2 documents
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I guess i am missing some config piece that makes the freight on the PO to be also a credit memo while doing the MRRL
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Hi experts,
If I want to create credit memo only after return delivery has been PGR, is it proper to make credit memo create with reference to return delivery? You know, SAP standard is to create this kind of credit memo with reference to return order.
If not proper, is it the reason that credit memo is set in SAP to create with reference to order or billing?
Pls advise. Many thanks.
Edited by: Cathy on Oct 17, 2009 5:13 AM
Edited by: Cathy on Oct 17, 2009 5:14 AM
Edited by: Cathy on Oct 17, 2009 5:15 AM

Hi
In standard SAP credit memo billing RE is created with reference to credit memo order type RE not with reference to return delivery and PGR
The basic reason is return order item category REN is billing relence is Order releted billing hence it doesnot refer to return delivery
In VOV7 if you make the billing relevance as A that is delivery related billing for REN then system will allow you to create credit memo with reference to return delivery only
This is the first customization reqd
Secondly there should be copy controls in VTFL between delivery type LR to billing type RE at header level and at item level for item category REN defined properly
This may not be there in standard settings and this we should define
Normally VTFA is referred for order releted billing and we are making that as delivery related so we should define copy controls in VTFL
is it proper to make credit memo create with reference to return delivery?
This is purely a client call
In one my assignments the major requirement was to create returns credit memo with reference to delivery (returned delivery qty ) only
His business prctise was
his customers will telephonically give the return order for 5 units and send back only 4 units to him
In this case if he makes a return return order for 5 and make a returm credit memo for 5 then that is not proper
So we made this customization to him for creating return credit memo with with reference to return delivery
His customers will telephonically give the return order for 5 units and send back only 4 units to him That was his operational shortcomings but we had to set the system accordingly
We used to close the balance 1 unit with reason of rejection
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tia - Pablito

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