Difference betweeen     Technical systems and Business systems

Hi
In a SLD we need to configure  technical systems and Business systems.. what is the exact difference between  Technical Systems and Business Systems..
this question is asked an interview.. for this.. how can we explain..
thanks
babu

Hi babu
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an  application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
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    Hi
    First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
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  • What is the difference between Business System and Business Service?

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