Difference between PNP and PCH logical database

WHats the difference between PNP nd PCH? When to use which??
Tx

Hi,
The Difference is only with in an SAP R/3 system in which Concurrent Employment is active, reports are executed by the PNPCE logical database. The general logic of the PNPCE logical database corresponds to the PNP logical database. The PNPCE logical database can also process the concept of Concurrent Employment.
HR Logical Databases
In Human Resources (HR), the following logical databases can be used as a data source for HR InfoSets:
PNP (PNPCE)
PAP
PCH
By selecting a logical database, you determine the HR data that can be reported on using an InfoSet.
Logical Database PCH
This logical database generally enables you to report on all HR infotypes. However, you are advised not to use this logical database unless you want to report on Personnel Planning data.
Logical Database PNP (or PNPCE)
Use logical database PNP to report on HR master data. It is possible to use logical database PCH to access this data, but PNP meets such reporting requirements more quickly because it is best suited to the task of selecting persons.
Logical database PNP enables you to access HR master data and infotypes from Personnel Planning. For example, you have the following options:
Reporting on the costs, number of attendees booked, and instructor for a business event on which an employee is booked
Reporting on working time and planned compensation for a position that an employee occupies
Reporting on the validity and proficiency of a qualification that an employee fulfils
From a technical perspective, this means you can use PNP to report on all of the infotypes that exist for objects (infotype 1000) that have a direct relationship (infotype 1001) with the Person object.
The ability to access infotypes from Personnel Planning using logical database PNP is a special feature that you can only use in the context of SAP Query and Ad Hoc Query. You cannot use this functionality for ABAP reports you programmed yourself.
You can also use logical database PNP to report on data from Personnel Time Management (infotypes 2000 to 2999) and Payroll (special payroll infotypes for the USA and customer infotypes; for more information, access Customizing for the Human Resources Information System and see Payroll Results).
Logical Database PAP
Logical database PAP enables you to access data from Recruitment.
Check this link for more details
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/e1/e1f83f6e5a11d687620000e82158f1/frameset.htm
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CALL FUNCTION 'F4IF_FIELD_VALUE_REQUEST'
       EXPORTING
            tabname     = 'DEMOF4HELP'
            fieldname   = 'CARRIER1'
            dynpprog    = progname
            dynpnr      = dynnum
            dynprofield = 'CARRIER'.
ENDMODULE.
MODULE value_connection INPUT.
CALL FUNCTION 'DYNP_VALUES_READ'
       EXPORTING
            dyname             = progname
            dynumb             = dynnum
            translate_to_upper = 'X'
       TABLES
            dynpfields         = dynpro_values.
READ TABLE dynpro_values INDEX 1 INTO field_value.
SELECT carrid connid
    FROM spfli
    INTO CORRESPONDING FIELDS OF TABLE values_tab
    WHERE carrid = field_value-fieldvalue.
CALL FUNCTION 'F4IF_INT_TABLE_VALUE_REQUEST'
       EXPORTING
            retfield    = 'CONNID'
            dynpprog    = progname
            dynpnr      = dynnum
            dynprofield = 'CONNECTION'
            value_org   = 'S'
       TABLES
            value_tab   = values_tab.
ENDMODULE.
*POH gives you F1 documentation:*
like:
If data element supplement documentation is insufficient for your requirements, or you want to display help for program fields that you have not copied from the ABAP Dictionary, you can call dialog modules in the POH event:
PROCESS ON HELP-REQUEST.
FIELD is defined in the ABAP program like a normal PAI module. The processing logic of the module must ensure that adequate help is displayed for the field in question. Instead of calling an extra screen with text fields, you should use one of the following function modules to display a suitable SAPscript document:
HELP_OBJECT_SHOW_FOR_FIELD
This function module displays the data element documentation for components of any structure or database table from the ABAP Dictionary. You pass the name of the component and structure or table to the import parameters FIELD and TABLE.
HELP_OBJECT_SHOW
Use this function module to display any SAPscript document. You must pass the document class (for example, TX for general texts, DE for data element documentation) and the name of the document to the import parameters DOKCLASS and DOKNAME. For technical reasons, you must also pass an empty internal table with the line type TLINE to the tables parameter of the function module.
For further information about how to create SAPscript documents, refer to the Documentation of System Objects documentation.
Field help on screens.
REPORT DEMO_DYNPRO_F1_HELP.
DATA: TEXT(30),
       VAR(4),
       INT TYPE I,
       LINKS TYPE TABLE OF TLINE,
       FIELD3, FIELD4.
TABLES DEMOF1HELP.
TEXT = TEXT-001.
CALL SCREEN 100.
MODULE CANCEL INPUT.
LEAVE PROGRAM.
ENDMODULE.
MODULE F1_HELP_FIELD2 INPUT.
INT = INT + 1.
CASE INT.
    WHEN 1.
    VAR = '0100'.
    WHEN 2.
    VAR = '0200'.
    INT = 0.
ENDCASE.
ENDMODULE.
MODULE F1_HELP_FIELD3 INPUT.
CALL FUNCTION 'HELP_OBJECT_SHOW_FOR_FIELD'
       EXPORTING
            DOKLANGU                      = SY-LANGU
            DOKTITLE                      = TEXT-002
            CALLED_FOR_TAB                = 'DEMOF1HELP'
            CALLED_FOR_FIELD              = 'FIELD1'.
ENDMODULE.
MODULE F1_HELP_FIELD4 INPUT.
CALL FUNCTION 'HELP_OBJECT_SHOW'
       EXPORTING
            DOKCLASS                      = 'TX'
            DOKLANGU                      = SY-LANGU
            DOKNAME                       = 'DEMO_FOR_F1_HELP'
            DOKTITLE                      = TEXT-003
       TABLES
            LINKS                         = LINKS.
ENDMODULE.
Regards,
Renjith Michael

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can anyone clarify on these...
What is difference between CRM and R/3
Also about CRM sales order vs R/3 Sales order why we go crm in this case .

First, it is expedient to state that both SAP Business One and SAP R/3 are built on the concept of client/server architecture. So how do they differ? Let's first understand the relationship in a client server setup. A client server is a computer system design standard in which the client machines requests and gets back information from a distribution machine called the server.
SAP Business One as said earlier is based on client/server architecture, howbeit a "2 tier": strictly, clients and server. This technology is often referred to as a fat client. This is because all processing and business logic are carried out on the client.
SAP R/3 is based on a three tier client/server technology. Typically, it is made up of three functionally distinct layers namely: the user interface, business logic and database.
The user interface, which is otherwise known as the presentation server displays the interface for users' communication with the SAP system. It is often referred to as the SAP GUI. As a matter of fact, it is a program called sapgui.exe. The application server is where the business logic and data manipulation takes place. Data processing, SAP administration tasks and client request/feedback management are handled within the business layer. The database layer is synonymous to the database server and it typically acts as a data repository for tables and other database objects and structures.
Ideally, an R/3 system is composed of one database server, one or more application servers and one or more presentation servers. SAP Business One on the other hand is composed of a database server and one or more presentation servers.

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