Different Applications on different Servers

Hi all,
How to configure the access by differents applications on different OC4Js ? For example:
The application A (contains JSPs) is installed on OC4J 1 and application B (contains EJBs) is installed on OC4J 2,
the application B must be accessed by application A, how to configure these applications ?
Thanks in advance !

hi!
you look them up, just the same way as at the same container. you just have to specify the location of the JNDI, where the beans should be looked up (environment settings).
Hashtable env = new Hashtable();
// com.evermind.server.rmi.RMIInitialContextFactory IS IMPORTANT
env.put(Context.INITIAL_CONTEXT_FACTORY, "com.evermind.server.rmi.RMIInitialContextFactory");
env.put(Context.SECURITY_PRINCIPAL, "admin"); // user
env.put(Context.SECURITY_CREDENTIALS, "admin"); // pwd
env.put(Context.PROVIDER_URL, "ormi://OC4J2/BeanAppl"); //location + applname
Context context = new InitialContext(env);
SBHome sbHome = (SBHome)PortableRemoteObject.narrow(context.lookup("SB"), SB.class);
SB sb = SBHome.create();
hope 2 help you ;o)
ed

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