Different Logical Systems ?

HI,
is it possible to use another Logical Systemname (Sender Service) ?
i know 2 possibilities.
1) Change the LS in the SLD but i can´t do that because a lot of companies using this LS.
2) Check "Using sender from payload" but this is already changed to "using controlinformation from payload" and might not be changed.
Is there another way to change the SenderService ID in the configuration and no other companies (business systems) are involved ?
Thank YOu,
Gordon

Hi,
are you talking about IDOCs?
>>>>2) Check "Using sender from payload" but this is already changed to "using controlinformation from payload" and might not be changed.
you can set it for even IDOC channel ...
so it can be changed in this way
for more info on IDOC processing check out:
<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2006/10/11/xi-new-book-mastering-idoc-business-scenarios-with-sap-xi">Mastering IDoc Business Scenarios with SAP XI</a>
Regards,
michal
<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/06/28/xipi-faq-frequently-asked-questions">XI / PI FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions</a>

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