Direct Procurement in Classic Scenario

Hi Experts,
We are on SRM 7 Ehp1, ECC 6 Ehp4.
Classic Scenario.
1. I have read in the forums , that in Classic Scenario, direct procurement is possible but the system behaves like Extended Classic and creates a Local PO. Just want to confirm this and if yes , does this happen as a standard or do we need to implement any BADI or anything to achieve this.
2. Also , in Classic Scenario, PDP scenario , can we transfer stock items(Direct Materials) PR's into SRM system or are there any limitations.
Thanks
Aditya

Hi Aditya,
You are right. Classic system behaves as extended classic for Direct procurement scenario. Your PO will be created in SRM itself and a copy of this will be sent to ECC. This happens as a standard and no BADIs need to be implemented for this.
Also in your classic system, you can transfer stock PRs into SRM. These will be available as shopping carts in the sourcing cockpit.
Regards,
Nikhil

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Experts,
Need your help once again.
I have implemented direct procurement in Classic scenario (SRM 7/ECC 6.0) and after reading on this forum, I realised that Direct procurement in classic, functions as extended classic because a local PO is created in SRM and this is replicated to ECC. So far this is working for me.
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We are implementing SRM5.0 classic scenario, (SSP with CCM).
As per standard , Shopping cart for a direct material (Requisition for
stock) will create a follow-on document in SRM only (controlled extended
classic scenario).
Client's requirement is that it should create a back-end PR in R/3 system.
Reason being, the client needs to have only one indenting system and one
procurement system.
which BAPI in R/3 for PR/PO has to be used to create PRs or Pos from SRM. Similarly, RFC which FMs have to be used to update status in SRM.
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mail id : [email protected]

Hi
Why not go for the BADI -> BBP_TARGET_OBJTYPE
Or
Alternatively using SPRO settings, you can change the standard behaviour of the system based on various attrbutes e.g., for a Particular Product, Item category, etc.
Here is the Path ->
IMG -> Supplier Relationship Mnagement -> SRM Server -> Cross-Application Basic settings -> Define Objects in Backend System (Purch. Reqs, Reservations, Purch. Orders)
Define Objects in Backend System (Purch. Reqs, Reservations,
You perform this step only if you create your Materials Management documents in a backend system.
You specify the documents that are to be created in the backend system for a requirement coverage request.
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Purchase requisition
Purchase order
Reservation
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You can enter the product category generically, such as Office*.
Note
The backend system is determined using the product category in the requirement coverage request item. The item also contains the organizatinal unit.
You can use the Business Add-In BBP_TARGET_OBJTYPE if you wish to implement a different logic for creating documents in the backend system.
Example
If purchasing group 01 wants to procure materials from the category Raw Materials, a reservation is to be created every time.
If materials in the category PC are to be procured, a purchase requisition is to be created every time.
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Always reservation for materials subject to inventory management
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Always purchase requisition
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Always local purchase order
The system always creates a local purchase order.
Hope this will help.
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I believe that we can do confirmation in EBP or in R/3.
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Hello Reshma,
>
Reshmab wrote:
> How can we know in classic scenario after confirmation, whether confirmation has been done in EBP or in R/3.
> (...)
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>
Reshmab wrote:
> Also please give an idea is there any configuration difference for confirmation need to do in EBP.
> (...)
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PDP:
1. We create PR with 2 items, each item have 3 sub-line services,
2. We push this PR to SRM
3. We create PO in SRM and it is copied to ECC.
4. PO will have 2 items, with each item have 3 sub-line services.
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1. We create SC with 2 items, each items have 3 sub-line services,
2. We create PO in SRM and it is copied to ECC
3. PO will have 2 items, with each item have 3 sub-line services.
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Dear Josh,
For your scenarios below:
Self Service Procurement:
1. We create SC with 2 items, each items have 3 sub-line services,
2. We create PO in SRM and it is copied to ECC
3. PO will have 2 items, with each item have 3 sub-line services.
The shopping cart and PO in local SRM system does not support service hierarchy (Service subline) in the system.
PDP:
1. We create PR with 2 items, each item have 3 sub-line services,
2. We push this PR to SRM
3. We create PO in SRM and it is copied to ECC.
4. PO will have 2 items, with each item have 3 sub-line services.
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Thanks and regards,
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