Do I need to repair after enabling journaling on MBP with software update?

My new 17" 2.4GHz MacBook Pro for some reason came without journaling turned on. Now the new MacBook Pro Software Update 1.0 wants to enable journaling, but the instructions says I need to do a disk repair afterwards booting from the OS X DVD. Unfortunately I don't have the DVD with me as I'm on a long trip.
Do I really need to do the repair afterwards? Could I just as well enable journaling from Disk Utility without running the software update? Or should I wait until I get back? I've had some stability issues with the MBP and therefore want to enable journaling to see if that makes things more stable.

Actually... I don't believe you "have" to run disk repair afterwards. The info posted by Apple states "Note: After MacBook, MacBook Pro Software Update 1.0 has been installed, the Macintosh startup volume will have journaling enabled.":
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306442
I believe the idea behind running the disk repair is just precautionary. I have updated a MacBook and three MacBook Pros and ran the disk repair utility from the install disks. The utility did not find any issues with any of the four machines I ran the update on. If you don't have access to your install DVD now... just run it when you get back home. To be honest... I expect the VAST majority of users out there will just install the update and never go through the step of going through a disk repair from the install DVD.

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