Dual Head - Window managers / Desktop enviroments Issues

Hi.
Grasping how Xorg, KDM/GDM, and the many DE:s / WM:s handle Dual head and the likes is not a walk in the park. This is really not really helpful towards newbies, setting up tv-out and such...
Xinerama - cons:
No DRI / openGL
Not all apps are xinerama aware, and not many have option to be started up on xinerama screen.
Xinerama - pros:
Drag apps between screens
Xinerama - usability:
KDE: good
Gnome: poor (apps end up on second screen, second monitor is not very configurable)
Xfce: good
TvinView - cons:
Missing features (A good example is crt is primary monitor, ALWAYS. Not fun when using laptops in tvinview configs)
TvinView - pros:
Accelerated output.
Good configurability in xorg.conf (makes your brain hurt though)
TvinView - usability:
Cant say, not been experimenting much. should be the same as dual screens.
Dual Screens - cons:
Cant move apps between screens.
You get a barebone "extra" desktop on second screen, for "free", yay!
Dual Screen - pros:
Accelerated output
Start apps with enviroment variable "DISPLAY=0.1" to second screen
Duals Screen - usability:
KDE: good
Gnome: poor (Apps end up on wrong screen all to often, Autostarted apps in the notification area / system tray crashes)
Xfce: good
Needless to say i think all setups pretty much suck, but what to do, what to do...
Either way i run dual screens because i want glx accelerated graphics.
As i use xfce and kde, i have no problems with this setup, but what about all gnome people?
Also, i've been browsing the net for DAYS (really) trying to figure out how to stop xfce, gnome and kde from loading that second desktop. There is NO info whatsoever on how to do this.
I want plain X, on my second screen/head. I have heard of people having this, but because of gnome/whatever not supporting dual-head, back in the days. Also one guy i spoke with accidently got this behaviour with KDE 3.5.2 when changing from gdm to kdm.
I also WANT this bug (which for me would be a feature!).
This way i could fire up another WM on that head, or why not freevo as a dedicated media player together with my remote control?
help me out...

@pelle: I have the same problem with gnome... in my xinitrc I first start ratpoison on the second screend but if I start gnome afterwards it takes both screens anyway. It currently only works with two 'simple' WMs. Though, I like Fluxbox as a replacement for gnome/kde very much. If it only had support for beryl, it would definately be my WM of choice.
@tmadhavan: You can indeed only have one exec line but you can execute any amount of commands before that line adding a '&' at the end of the line. The exec just defines the command that is linked to the XServer which means, if the 'exec' command exits, then the Xserver exits as well. But it doesn't have the WM you use with 'exec'. I once used a script I had written there, that allowed me to change the WM on the fly without shutting down neither X itself, nor any application I had running.

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1. Have I gotten this all completely wrong?
Significant parts of it, I'm afraid; see above. You're working under BIOS assumptions, which don't apply to EFI.
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(==) ServerLayout "dual head configuration"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) | |-->Device "Videocard0"
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(**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor1"
(**) | |-->Device "Videocard1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
It doesn't look as if xrandr can help as it reports a maximum virtual desktop of 1680x1680.
Because the two monitors are different resolutions I don't know if a single screen is the answer.
I used to have two displays/screens configured to two different resolutions matching the monitors using the catalyst driver but can't get it working using the xf86-video-ati driver.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Willem
Last edited by Willem (2010-01-02 20:42:41)

Thanks, with your help I was able to get it working.
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Load "type1"
Load "Xst"
Load "IA"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/sun/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/F3bitmaps/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
# FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
# FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
# FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
# ModulePath "/usr/X11/lib/modules"
EndSection
# Input devices
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "Keyboard"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "de"
EndSection
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier and driver
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Device" "/dev/kdmouse"
# Option "Emulate3Buttons"
# Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
EndSection
# Monitor section
# Any number of monitor sections may be present
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "nec"
VendorName "NEC"
ModelName "NEC LCD"
HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0
VertRefresh 50-90
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "nec2"
VendorName "NEC"
ModelName "NEC LCD"
HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0
VertRefresh 50-90
EndSection
# Graphics device section
Section "Device"
Identifier "Matrox"
Driver "mga"
VideoRam 32768
BusID "PCI:01:00:0"
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Matrox2"
Driver "mga"
VendorName "Matrox"
BoardName "Matrox Millennium G450"
BusID "PCI:01:04:0"
# Option "MGASDRAM"
EndSection
# Screen sections
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 0"
Device "Matrox"
Monitor "nec"
DefaultDepth 16
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "Matrox2"
Monitor "nec2"
DefaultDepth 16
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

Nouveau graphical tearing, dual-head setup

I currently experience tearing while using the Nouveau drivers for my NVidia card. I experienced the same (or a similar) tearing issue while using the proprietary drivers, which, along with the inherent incompatibility with most of the linux graphics stack, led me to switch to Nouveau.
I'm using the 3D support from nouveau-dri along with xf86-video-nouveau and the most recent Gnome 3 build in the official repositories.
I have a dual-head setup with one 1024x768 IBM monitor to the left of a 1920x1080 Dell monitor. Both report 60Hz vertical refresh rate in their configuration menus.
So far, my attempts to solve this problem have consisted of the following steps:
1. Use a minimal xorg.conf and configure everything using the integrated Gnome display settings utility. The minimal xorg.conf was as follows:
Section "Device"
Identifier "nvidia"
Driver "nouveau"
Option "GLXVBlank" "true"
EndSection
2. Enable/disable the GLXVBlank flag in xorg.conf.
I do not experience the same issue when booted to Windows 7, using the most recent official NVidia drivers.
I would greatly appreciate any help anyone could offer on this issue, it is quite frustrating to boot into Windows to watch videos without horizontal breaks in every frame. Thanks!
Output from xrandr --current is as follows:
[ifx@melancholy ~]$ xrandr --current
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2944 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
DVI-I-1 connected 1920x1080+1024+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 477mm x 268mm
1920x1080 60.0*+
1280x1024 75.0 60.0
1152x864 75.0
1024x768 75.1 60.0
800x600 75.0 60.3
640x480 75.0 60.0
720x400 70.1
DVI-I-2 connected 1024x768+0+312 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 304mm x 228mm
1024x768 60.0*+ 75.1 70.1
832x624 74.6
800x600 72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
640x480 72.8 75.0 60.0 59.9
720x400 70.1
My current xorg.conf is as follows:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
Option "PreferredMode" "1920x1080_60.00"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor1"
Option "PreferredMode" "1024x768_60.00"
Option "LeftOf" "Monitor0"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "nvidia"
Driver "nouveau"
Option "Monitor-DVI-I-1" "Monitor0"
Option "Monitor-DVI-I-2" "Monitor1"
Option "GLXVBlank" "true"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Virtual 2944 1080
EndSubSection
Device "nvidia"
EndSection
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout0"
Screen "Screen0"
EndSection
Other information can be provided on request.

Hello. I have the same problem. Not just on Arch. I've had this problem with many distros, graphics cards, and drivers across the board. Installing the proprietary nvidia driver fixes the video tearing (vsync) issue for me. However; A) it's Linux, I don't want to use proprietary anything (otherwise I'd be on a Mac); and B) the proprietary driver will not flip my display to portrait anyway.
I basically have the same setup as Meyermagic. One GeForce 8600 GT, Two monitors (identical acers) 1680x1050 (oriented in portrait so 1050x1680 if you like), using open source Nouveau driver, created a minimal xorg file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nouveau.conf
Section "Module"
Load "glx"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Nvidia card"
Driver "nouveau"
Option "GLXVBlank" "true"
EndSection
Both monitors have a refresh rate of 60Hz. I still get really bad tearing as I drag windows across the screens.
Again, I've had this issue with almost every Linux box I've built (the only time this is not even remotely an issue is on my Thinkpad T400 using the Intel graphics). I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong or I've just had bad luck because it is nearly impossible to find any support for this on any forum anywhere. Anything I do find is either a thread like this where someone asked the question and simply never got a response. Or it is some out-of-date forum that give you 10 ways to modify the xorg.conf none of which make any sense or don't work. Not to mention that xorg.conf is now depreciated anyways.
Seriously, even if there is a wiki that concisely explains in excruciating detail how to actually modify the xorg conf files then I could figure it out for myself but I can't find that anywhere which makes me feel really stupid because I know it has to be out there. If there isn't an xorg wiki or xorg.com site or something that explains how to use the thing then I'm not sure I want to live on this planet anymore.
If anyone can help in any way please do.

Can Photoshop CS4 be deployed on Windows remote desktop server?

I tried installing Photoshop extended CS4 on a Windows Remote Desktop server (Windows 2008 R2 64bit) and it said it requires at least Windows XP or Vista 64bit as the OS requirement. I can either continue or quit. Can someone verify if this product can be deployed in RDS enviroment?
Thanks

Mark:
Thanks for the input. It worked. Interestingly, I first tried installing CS5 but the install just stopped. I then tried CS4 and it installed without trouble. For CS5, I have a downloaded copy of the software; for CS4, I have an actual physical DVD. I may explore this issue further at some later point. For now, having CS4 run is quite sufficient for testing and evaluation.
I realize that using thin clients will impose some amount of performance penalty, but my expectation is that the overall performance will be acceptable for most user tasks most of the time. I take it from your post this has been your experience. I will still provide a stand-alone machine for the small number of projects where the application is taxing the limits of the computer, and any limitations imposed by Remote Desktop are not acceptable.
Certainly, the software needs to be properly licensed, which Adobe is more than happy to provide. Through the thin client approach I hope to eliminate the maintenance and management headache of maintaining multiple, essentially identical, machines. And, I hope to reduce (by some small percentage) power costs.
We'll see how it goes...
Jerry

Tiling Window Managers; where to start?

I'm looking for a wm for my laptop. It is relatively fast, 4gb of ram, dual core processor, etc. I don't like dealing with some of the bloat that is gnome/kde. On my desktop I've used openbox for quite some time, but what I really miss on my laptop is the expose function to quickly view all open windows, since a laptop monitor can get a bit cramped. I tried to work with skippy and the xautolock but it wasn't nearly the same. It seems like the only solutions are either going back to gnome/xfce + compiz, or compiz standalone (how is this?), or to try out a tiling window manager. What would you recommend? Where does one start? Will this solve my problem?

When it comes to a wm, people can get rabid about them; almost as bad as when it comes to distro of choice!
Anyway, I have used a few tiling window managers myself, and liked every one that I have used, which includes awesome and xmonad.
I'm not plugging any of them, just wanting to let you know that there is a wiki page comparing the different tiling window managers, that should give you a good start on which one(s) you want to try.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Co … w_Managers
If there are certain things that you find useful in a window manager, the table can be helpful.
HTH

[solved] mutt with tiling window managers = bad = how to improve?

Hi guys
I want to use mutt as my mail client. I've tested several others, but none fits me better. It has to be a cli application, because that's just the way I want it to be.
The only thing I don't like about mutt is its inability to handle resizing terminals. This is something which happens all the time with tiling window managers. Let me demonstrate with screenshots.
mutt as it's supposed to look http://www.unstucc.de/myspace/mutt-normal.png
mutt how it looks after the screen got resized. http://www.unstucc.de/myspace/mutt-resized.png
Hitting Ctrl+l rerenders mutt's interface, but this is really going on my nerves.
I run mutt in urxvt, but I also tested it with xterm, comparable result (it's a little bit better in xterm, but still not perfect)
I've been searching for this for quite a while now and I can't find ideas how to solve this.
Any help is very appreciated.
Last edited by Army (2011-03-31 23:55:27)

May I see your .Xdefaults file? Maybe you have some urxvt settings I don't have. Here's mine
URxvt.foreground:white
URxvt.background:black
URxvt.inheritPixmap:true
URxvt.scrollBar:false
URxvt.shading:40
URxvt.fading:20
URxvt.font:xft:Terminus:pixelsize=12:antialias=false
URxvt.boldFont:xft:Terminus:bold:pixelsize=12:antialias=false
URxvt.internalBorder:0
URxvt.externalBorder:0
URxvt.perl-ext-common:default,selection,url-select,keyboard-select,clipboard
URxvt.colorUL:blue
URxvt.keysym.M-u:perl:url-select:select_next
URxvt.keysym.M-Escape: perl:keyboard-select:activate
URxvt.keysym.Mod4-s: perl:keyboard-select:search
URxvt.keysym.Mod4-c: perl:clipboard:copy
URxvt.keysym.Mod4-v: perl:clipboard:paste
URxvt.keysym.Mod4-C-v: perl:clipboard:paste_escaped
URxvt.urlLauncher:web-open
URxvt.underlineURLs:true
URxvt.urgentOnBell:true
I wanted to try sup, but this app never ran here, always because of some compatibility issues with Arch's ruby afair. But I could give it another try some day.
edit: Just tried it again, the dependencies don't build ... I don't like ruby stuff!!!
But since it seems like the problem I have might be solvable, I'd recommend to stick with mutt and solve this.
By the way, here are the settings in my muttrc
source /etc/Muttrc.gpg.dist
set header_cache = "~/.mutt/cache/headers"
set message_cachedir = "~/.mutt/cache/bodies"
set certificate_file = "~/.mutt/certificates"
set delete
set sort = "threads"
set sort_aux = "last-date-received"
set imap_check_subscribed
set imap_keepalive = 60
set imap_idle
set imap_passive="yes"
set mail_check=5
set mailcap_path = "~/.mutt/mailcap"
unset copy
unset autoedit
set include
set attribution = "* %n <%a> [%(%d.%m.%Y %H:%M)]:"
set reply_regexp = "^((re([\[^-][0-9]+\]?)*|aw|antwort|antw|wg):[ \t]*)+"
set edit_hdrs
set beep_new = yes
set net_inc=5
set move
alternative_order text/plain text/html
set editor = 'vim -c "syntax on" -c "/^$" -c "set tw=0"'
#set alias_file = ~/.mutt/mail_aliases
set query_command="goobook query '%s'"
bind editor <Tab> complete-query
macro index,pager a |'goobook add'\n
# bindings -- very vim-like
bind pager q exit
bind pager t toggle-quoted
bind pager / search
bind pager <up> previous-line
bind pager <down> next-line
bind pager k previous-line
bind pager j next-line
bind pager gg top
bind pager G bottom
bind index gg first-entry
bind index G last-entry
bind pager K previous-undeleted
bind pager J next-undeleted
bind index K previous-unread
bind index J next-unread
bind index,pager R group-reply
#Attachments lila
color attachment magenta default
#Fehler rot
color error red default
#Der Header Gelb, Subject (Betreff) leuchtend, das To in weiß
color header brightyellow default "^Subject: "
color header white default "^To:"
color hdrdefault yellow default
#Der "Leuchtbalken"
color indicator black white
color markers brightblue default
#Die Nachricht selbst auch bunt machen; dabei je Quotingebene eine andere Farbe --> bringt Übersicht
color message white default
color normal white default
color quoted yellow default
color quoted1 green default
color quoted2 cyan default
color quoted3 red default
#die Signatur nicht so hell anzeigen
color signature brightblack default
#Statuszeile in blau-gelb
color status brightyellow blue
auto_view text/html
set charset=utf-8
Last edited by Army (2011-03-31 23:05:13)

Windows 7 and windows 8 desktop wired and 7510e printer connected to win 7 wireless

I have a windows 7 64 bit HPavilion Elite 150f desktop set up wired with a 7510e photosmart printer connected to it wireless, now I have purchased a windows 8 desktop HP envy 700-019 desktop.
When I set up my new windows 8 desktop I just plugged it into my wireless router/modem combo and it found my printer and I could just print from it, I did not download any software or drivers for my printer or set up a home group as I was not sure how to set it up but last night I tried to set up a homegroup,
I used my wireless network key and entered it and pressed connect, then I entered the Homegroup password that was downloaded for me from Microsoft, but my windows 7 says homegroup and my windows 8 shows private network so I am not sure what I have done wrong, I chose to only share music and printers, can anyone tell me how to do this correctly as I am not sure that I have done it properly.
On my windows 8 I can go to my printers web site by entering the static IP address that cloud support set up for me and it shows as connected but I do not want to enter any printer code as that is already set up on my windows 7, I can also scan to email on my windows 8 but I am not sure what if any security I have on my windows 8. The last time I had a homegroup set up I payed someone to do it for me so I did it by guess work more than anything, if someone can lead me through it step by step I would appreciate it.

Hi @emma22
I would like to do my best to help, but please bear in mind the issue you are expressing is an inquiry for Microsoft not HP. I did find something I think will be most helpful, and I hope it resolves the issue, but if the issue persists, or you have additional questions, it might be best to reach out to the Microsoft community.
Here is what I found; HomeGroup from start to finish.
In the top right hand corner of the article, you can change it from WIndows 7 to Windows 8. I hope this helps.
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Sunshyn2005 - I work on behalf of HP

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