Dual Network cards

I have a G4 and want to add a NIC to ftp from a private network. If I don't disable the onboard ethernet port it doesn't work, how can I have both cards working where one card does only internet ant the other does ftp from an assigned IP network

Hi wdar, and a warm welcome to the forums!
I've used just about every Mac compatible one there is, but any of these should work...
http://eshop.macsales.com/search/usb+wifi
While you may get help or a solution here, It's quite acceptable to start a new topic of your own, certainly feel free to start a new topic to attract more helpers to your particular situation, especially for that other problem, here's a link if as is often the case, it's hard to find out where to do it...
http://discussions.apple.com/post!default.jspa?forumID=755

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    Sean,
    I mean I am always connecting to the nodemgr of the 2nd environment
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    Internet: [email protected]
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Sean Brown [SMTP:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 1:31 PM
    To: Venkat Kodumudi; 'Sean Brown'
    Cc: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same
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    Hmmmm? That is a little odd! Let me rehash what I think you are saying.
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    Sean
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Venkat Kodumudi [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 9:57 AM
    To: 'Sean Brown'
    Cc: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same machine
    I am giving the actual IP address. and not the host name. That is why I
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    Venkat Kodumudi
    Price Waterhouse LLP
    Internet: [email protected]
    Internet2: [email protected]
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Sean Brown [SMTP:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 10:53 AM
    To: Venkat Kodumudi; 'Sean Brown'
    Cc: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same
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    I probably should have mentioned this before. Your are correct. Forteis
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    Sean
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Venkat Kodumudi [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 9:27 AM
    To: 'Sean Brown'
    Cc: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same machine
    My requirement is that my second card serves as best case performance
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    nodemgr is returning back the IP address of the first card, even thoughmy
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    I think Forte is doing a host look up and returning the first IP address
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    Venkat Kodumudi
    Price Waterhouse LLP
    Internet: [email protected]
    Internet2: [email protected]
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Sean Brown [SMTP:[email protected]]
    Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 9:54 AM
    To: Venkat Kodumudi
    Cc: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same
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    OK, you ran into one of the issues. That is, if both addresses areknown
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    designed more as a failover mechanism. So it will always try the
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    Now, the second issue is that there is currently a problem with theclient
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    fails it is supposed to retry on the second entry. Instead, it
    retries
    the
    first entry again. I know that Forte knows about this but I do nothave
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    With that said, lets look at a possible solution for you. If the real
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    over
    on
    the same machine, or use one card to advertise outside your firewalland
    one
    to use inside, then you will have to contact Forte to determine whenthe
    failover problem will be fixed. But, if the objective is to loadbalance
    across the network cards you could have the environment manager listenon
    both ports and then alternate your server partitions across both
    cards.
    For
    example:
    set FORTE_NS_ADDRESS=card1:5000;card2:5000 and then start up the
    environment
    manager
    set FORTE_LOCATIONS=card1:0 (the 0 in the port causes the OS to pick a
    port)
    and start partition one
    set FORTE_LOCATIONS=card2:0 and start partition two
    and so on....
    In this scenario the environment manager will be listening on bothcards
    but
    each server will be listening on only one of the two cards. So if a
    request
    comes in for partition1 it will go through card one and if it is for
    partition two it will go through card two. You could assign your
    partitions
    to cards based on expected load.
    Well, I am done. I hope this helps!
    Sean
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Venkat Kodumudi [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 8:06 AM
    To: 'Sean Brown'; 'John Jamison'
    Cc: [email protected]; Jose Suriol
    Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the samemachine
    Sean,
    Thanks for your reply. I tried the approach. I was not very specificin
    my
    question. I do need the ability for server applications to listen and
    server
    on both the network cards.
    I was succesfully able to make the nodemgr listen on both the cardsand
    actually serve requests coming in from both the cards. But, followingyour
    advise, I took a cautious step with FORTE_LOCATIONS. Here is what I
    noticed.
    I have an application that has 6 partitions in total. I used
    FORTE_LOCATION
    to make it listen on 1. Both the cards. 2. Swapped the IP addresses
    for
    both
    cards for this application. 3. One card that I want it to listen on. I
    tried
    all approaches by exporting the locations variable for just this
    application. The nodemgr recieves a request from this pc connected onthe
    second card to talk to one of the partitions. The node mgr responds
    with
    a
    proxy - with the ip address and socket number of the first card. The
    FORTE_NS_ADDRESS variable looks like this:
    IP1:5002;IP2:5002.
    Is it possible atall to resolve my problem, without having a seperate
    environment?
    Thanks
    Venkat Kodumudi
    Price Waterhouse LLP
    Internet: [email protected]
    Internet2: [email protected]
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Sean Brown [SMTP:[email protected]]
    Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 10:42 AM
    To: 'John Jamison'; Venkat Kodumudi
    Cc: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the
    same
    machine
    Venkat,
    Actually, it is possible for Forte to listen on more than one IP andport
    combination. The first reply to your message was correct. If you
    set
    the
    FORTE_NS_ADDRESS to contain multiple entries before starting the
    name
    service, it will advertise on both. For Forte servers you use the
    FORTE_LOCATIONS env variable to get it to advertise on multipleip:port
    combinations.
    We were doing something very similar with another customer I was at
    to
    get
    around a firewall. I will warn you that there are some issues with
    FORTE_LOCATIONS that may keep that portion from working. However,
    from
    reading your note, it appears that all you need is for the nameservice
    to
    advertise and listen on multiple ports and that works fine. I justtested
    it again for sanity sake and it worked. I ran my test on NT using
    Forte
    3G2.
    Sean
    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected]
    [<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of John Jamison
    Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 4:51 PM
    To: Venkat Kodumudi
    Cc: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the samemachine
    Venkat,
    Technically yes this is possible, though not in Forte. A nameserver
    can
    only listen on one port.
    To implement this scheme you will have to write a proxy service (insome
    language
    including perhaps forte) which listens on the well-known port on the
    second card, reads requests, then forwards them to the realnameservice
    (wkp on the first card), and forwards replies back. This is not
    trivial, but some firewall toolkit vendors supply stub code to write
    application specific proxies.
    -J
    Venkat Kodumudi wrote:
    Folks,
    Here is what we would like to do:
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    Hello Venkat,
    I probably should have mentioned this before. Your are correct. Forte is
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