Early08 Mac Pro ATI Radeon 4870 Upgrade w/ 24" LED Cinema Display

I have just received the ATI Radeon 4870 upgrade kit for my early 2008 Mac Pro (dual quad) which permits me to use the new LED Cinema Display (I now have a mini display port). Almost everything works well but find I am unable to manually put the display to sleep. It just seems to freeze and not go dark. Am using OS 10.5.6. I know the card is a new product. Is anyone else having the same problem?
Thanks,
Jack

This information is GOLD! Solid GOLD!
I have an early-'08 Pro also, and got the HD 4870 this afternoon via FedEx. I tried running a game, and got a "Cannot load 3D acceleration" error message. I noticed that moving windows was choppy, as was switching between Spaces pages. I called AppleCare, and after a loooooooong discussion with some very friendly folks, the tech support guy sent me to the Apple Store support to initiate an exchange.
I then found this thread, downloaded the beta drivers, and BAM! it works like I hoped it would, blazing fast graphics.
I called AppleCare back so they'd be aware of it, and while I was on the phone, the guy even followed that link and said, "Wow, what the heck is that site?" He was very happy to have the information.
Spread the word!
Of course, then, today, I noticed on MacRumors that a new nvidia card is going to be offered as an upgrade next month. Sigh. I think I'm happy enough with this one to ignore the nVidia offering. I hope 10.5.7 comes out soon.
Stuart

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It was funny to read all your answers on my iPhone while away from my computer. I could have reply on the iPhone but I preferred to wait to give you all the procedure I used to install the beta driver successfully this morning.
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http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=155477
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flashing:
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http://www.geek.com/articles/games/macpro-whats-better-ati-radeon-4870-or-nvidia -gtx-285-20090720/
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my system info:
Hardware Overview:
Model Name:          Mac Pro
Model Identifier:          MacPro1,1
Processor Name:          Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed:          2.66 GHz
Number Of Processors:          2
Total Number Of Cores:          4
L2 Cache (per processor):          4 MB
Memory:          13 GB
Bus Speed:          1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version:          MP11.005C.B08
SMC Version (system):          1.7f10
Serial Number (system): xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hardware UUID:          00000000-0000-1000-8000-00xxxxxxxx
ATI Radeon X1900 XT:
Chipset Model:          ATY,RadeonX1900
Type:          GPU
Bus:          PCIe
Slot:          Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width:          x16
VRAM (Total):          512 MB
Vendor:          ATI (0x1002)
Device ID:          0x7249
Revision ID:          0x0000
ROM Revision:          113-A52027-140
EFI Driver Version:          01.00.140

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Model Identifier:          MacPro1,1
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Processor Speed:          3 GHz
Number of Processors:          2
Total Number of Cores:          4
L2 Cache (per Processor):          4 MB
Memory:          8 GB
Bus Speed:          1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version:          MP11.005C.B08
SMC Version (system):          1.7f10
Serial Number (system):          G86334VTUPZ
Hardware UUID:          00000000-0000-1000-8000-0017F20153D2
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I know lots of people have been asking if this card works on 2006 Mac Pros V.1.1.
Well I took the plunge and purchased one fitted it into my MP with leopard O/S
and away it went no problemo as they say Sinc doing this I have updated my
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A 5770 is $249 or slightly less and in the same dept to me as replacing hard drives, adding some RAM in order to work and because my understanding is it was the first card to support 3 monitors.
The 5770 only requires 10.6.5+ - and the 4,1 had way too many issues with 10.5.7/10.5.8
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http://boeglin.org/blog/index.php?entry=entry090918-031702
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