Edit to tape... Cannot Assemble...

Hi, I am trying to edit a 30sec commercial spot to tape to get it to the local cable company ASAP. I have a Powermac G5 outputting to a Multibridge extreme, controling a Panasonic AJ-D455 DVCPro deck. I have the timeline all set to export but when I drag it over to the Edit to Tape window, all options (insert, assemble, preview) are grayed out. Please help me.
Thanks
Paul

First of all, why not go out Firewire? That will keep the output a digital copy of your timeline.
If you insist on using the Decklink, make sure your settings are correct (device settings) - you should be able to control the deck prior to output. Do you get an error message when you click the black tape button?
Patrick

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Edit to tape INSERT & NO AUDIO

Ok, so i have a brand new Mac, Decklink Blackmagic Extreme HD card in it. Everything works properly, except the insert edit to tape. When I perform an assemble edit through the "Edit to tape" window it works fine, but cannot get the insert edit to insert audio?? Using a Sony UVW-1800 deck. Performed a test on the deck with another editor and it worked fine. Using the Blackmagic 10Bit Easy setup thus far. A bit confused about what the device control settings should be, or where I should be looking to get FCPS2 to tell the deck to record audio when doing an insert edit. And before you ask, yes I have selected "all on" from the "edit to tape" window audio pop-up.
I need help soon, as this is how we put all our productions to master tapes for the company!! Thanks in advance!!

Alright, if you have a Decklink card, and a BetaSP deck... this will be VERY helpful!!!
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/support/detail.asp?techID=118
Thanks!

Edit to Tape not working for me!!! PLEASE HELP!!!!!

Hey everyone,
I've researched this in many forums and have found what could be the answer, only to try and still get NOTHING!!!
When I drag seq. to ETT window I get the pop-up but 'insert', 'assemble', and 'preview' are kind of greyed out, and don't let me drop anything in, i.e sequence from browser, from viewer, clips, etc.
GOAL:
To Output Final Sequence from FCP6 to DVCPRO HD Tape, (Panasonic 1200a Deck). WITH TIMECODE for Broadcast at 29.97/59.94!!
SPECS:
*MAC PRO-*
Quad Core Intel Xeon Processor
3 Ghz
2 Processors
8 cores
L2 Cache per proc. 8MB
Memory-8GB
Bus Speed 1.33 Ghz
Boot Rom Ver. MP21.007F.B06
SMC Ver. 1.15f3
*FCP Ver. 6.0.2*
*AJA KONA 3 Ver. 5.1*
Digital out – 720p 59.94
Control – Playback timing /Genlock - Freerun
Codec – Pattern 2:3:3:2
Timecode - Input ---RP188 LTC
- Output--- Use QT Timecode is UNCHECKED
- 30 FPS DF
*Panasonic DVCPRO HD AJ-HD1200A*
Timecode Settings –
TCG MODE – REGEN
RUN MODE - REC
TC SOURCE - INT
Footage was shot 720P 24PN on Panasonic HVX200. Ingested via P2 Cards/P2 Store, (W/ REMOVE ADVANCED PULLDOWN FRAMES checked).
Project was edited in a 23.98 timeline.
Have tried: Exporting to QT at both 29.97 and 59.94—then re-importing into FCP with a new timeline w/ matching settings.
I have been told that FCP doesn’t produce TC ‘going out’ and that essentially we are looking to 'MATCH-EDIT' to timecode on tape.
I have Black and coded tape to 00:58:50;00
Project In point is 00:59:00;02 --for all intents/purposes this is a test seq. so OUT point is 01:01:00;07
I have complete Deck Control in FCP but, the problem I’m having is not being able to use the “Edit to Tape” func. In FCP. I can Black and Code the beginning of the tape, and the “ETT” window shows the corresponding timecode on the deck, but when I go to drop the sequence in the ‘Insert’ or ‘Assemble’ drop box, I get nothing? I don’t know if it’s the settings in the DECK, KONA CARD or FCP??
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!SHOW AIRING in 2 DAYS!!!!
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Zack

That deck cannot do insert editing or assemble editing with proper show time to the 1200 deck. That is that decks big weakness. Only the 1400 deck has this ability. You'll have to crash record and then get the tape dubbed at a dub facility with the proper show code.
TRUST ME...I have been down this path.
Shane

"Out of Memory" - need to "edit to tape"

I deleted my render files on my current sequence and am hoping that it works - but can anyone tell me if there is a fix for the "out of memory" error - It is not a capture scratch disc space issue or a ram issue... I have rebooted the computer / the app/ switched computers / saved the project to the desktop / rendered in little chunks....
if this re-render of the files doesn't work... im stumped...
any advice??
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Compression settings error...assume you are using the buttons on the edit to tape screen...
From the web...
“The error message can appear because the Assemble, Insert or Preview buttons refer to whatever is currently loaded into the Viewer window. If there is a Color Matte, Slug, Bars & Tone, or any generated media element currently loaded in the Viewer window, no specific compression settings are applied and Final Cut Pro cannot proceed.
If you are using these generated media elements, they need to be placed into a sequence before they will acquire their specific compression attributes. You can then load the sequence into the Viewer window and use Assemble, Edit, or Preview buttons.
It is probably simpler, however, to simply drag the Sequence icon from the Browser directly to the Assemble, Insert or Preview overlay areas on the right side of the Edit to Tape Window. This saves the additional step of initially loading the Sequence to the Viewer.”

Trying to "edit to tape"

I am trying to use the edit to tape feature so that I can put a certain timecode on the tpe I'm printing out to. ... I am having issues with it ... I black the tape using the edit to tape feature and then try puting in the timecode that i want my video to start at and FCP will not let me drop in the sequence to the edit to tape window.
I am using a panasonic DVCpro HD deck (my video is 1080i)
nd I am trying to go through a blackmagic decklink
please help! I need to be able to start picture at a certain TC on the tape
Thanks!

I ran into the same issue printing masters of our TV shows. The Outdoor Channel required the show to start at 01:00:00;00. We tried every way possible to get the TC through FireWire to the deck until I came across a blurb in the FCP user manual that says FireWire cannot output TC. You must have another type of deck control, like RS-422. We ended up using an old deck that was laying around to black 5 minutes of TC, then used edit to tape to do an assemble edit starting at the correct TC.
If that's not an option for you, I did run across this thread while searching for an answer:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/974059#974075
I didn't try it, but its suppose to work!

'Incompatible Codec' Preventing Edit To Tape - Getting Annoyed Now!

Okay, this should be a really simple procedure - I have a 30 second TV commercial to master from the timeline to a Digibeta A500 VTR. The project is set to Blackmagic PAL 10-bit, as is the timeline and the view output. The video card (Blackmagic Decklink HD) is providing the Digibeta with an audio/video muxed SDI feed and machine control via RS422. The output of the A500 shows the Blackmagic card is feeding it pictures from the timeline just fine. Here comes the problem - on opening Edit To Tape to do a master with frame-accurate timecode FCP insists that it cannot playout the timeline as the timeline settings and the output settings are different codecs... yet the entire process is simply uncompressed 10-bit PAL. FCP suggests I re-render in a new timeline with 'the correct codec' but this doesn't help. No one here or at my system supplier can figure out what's up with the thing, I don't fancy sending out a TX master crash-recorded with a 'guesstimated' timecode track but failing that I'm screwed...
...any suggestions which miniscule and forgotten setting might be causing this?
Cheers,
Tom

Hiya - Sorry guys I should have made myself clearer. I have already been doing the drag of the timeline to the 'assemble' pop up in the ETT window and this was when the 'incompatible compression setting' error came up.
I think I have got past this issue now - it seems that the 'Blackmagic PAL 10-bit' preset is actually 5:4 aspect ratio by default which is ever so slightly different to regular 4:3 the card itself is trying to output - strangely though I get realtime playback off the timeline with this default setup but not via ETT (which annoyingly insists on spending 10 minutes 'writing video' before every master I run off - is there a way to get it to save the video file it has written for ETT output?)
It was only on the fourth attempt that I managed to get ETT to output both video and audio together - the first three attempts it only output the audio tracks. Bizarre? Lastly the timecode is off by one frame - i.e. the beginning frame of the commercial is coming in at 10:00:00:01. Could this be a dropped frame or do I need to change the pre-roll settings for ETT somewhere (can I do this?)
Cheers for your help so far guys!
Tom

Edit to tape confusing drop frame and non drop frame

This is a re-creation of a dead thread I found from June 6, 2006. This is the exact problem this other user was having.
OS 10.4.7
FCP 5.0.4
Dual G5 2.5
4.5 GB RAM
KONALH
Trying to edit to a Sony DVW-A500 (Digibeta) in Drop Frame mode.
Read Below for deets.
Problem: When working with a drop-frame sequence, and editing to tape, the program is edited to the tape with an offset of 3 seconds and 18 frames at the end of one hour.
Reproducible: Yes.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Create a drop-frame sequence.
2. Edit the sequence in step 1.
3. Perform an edit to tape with the sequence edited in step 2.
What should happen: The sequence should be edited to tape at the time it occurs in the timeline.
What does happen: The sequence is edited to the tape 3 seconds and 18 frames after it should be!
Other observations: 3 seconds and 18 frames is exactly how much time is not in an hour of drop-frame time when compared to non-drop frame time. If you drop two (2) frames in every minute that does not end in zero, the math works out to 2*54=108 dropped frames in an hour. For the sake of simple mathematics, lets say there are 30 frames in a second. So 108/30= 3 with a remainder of 18, or 3 seconds and 18 frames.
It's as if FCP is getting confused about drop and non-drop timecode when the sequence is drop-frame. If anyone can offer any insights, confirmation, or resolutions for what I am seeing, it would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading!

So is the timeline a drop frame timeline, starting at 1:00:00:00?
And then is the DBeta tape prestriped (at least enough to do an assemble edit) to start the program at 01:00:00:00?
In other words, is the FCP timeline timecode matching the Dbeta tape timecode in a 1:1 relationship before you attempt to Edit to Tape?
Thinking further: FCP can't really confuse the two timecodes, it's dependent on the operator to tell it what to do. When it outputs it's not outputing timecode or looking even really looking for timecode. It's looking for your IN point in the Edit to Tape tool.
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Edit to Tape Greyed Out

I'm trying to layoff a ProRes 422 720p sequence to my Panasonic Standard Def AJSD93 deck. I have it downconverted thru my AJA i/o box...but for some reason when I open edit to tape and go to drop my sequence on the drop zone for assemble or insert...BOTH are greyed out. Any ideas what could be going on???
Thanks in advance for your help!

Did you ever use this deck for insert or assemble whatever signal?
Because a quick google gave me this : " ...this deck can't be used to insert edit.
The output of an edited sequence from Avid or Final Cut Pro onto tape can only be done as a straight recording from the editing application, so the timeline's timecode can't be accurately transferred to the tape...."
(see
http://www.dv.com/reviews/reviews_item.php?articleId=161502534
for the complete review.)
So it seems the only way to this is "print to video"...
Rienk

Sych drift using edit to tape

FCP is running perfectly in all areas except for edit to tape.
This is a new issue since upgrading to 5.1x and I've been using FCP since version 1. Audio drifts about a frame per second from the assemble edit point and i cant figure it out. Either the sound is dragging out by a frame per second or the pic is going down faster than 25 fps.
Is there a preference or setting that I'm supposed to alter?

That is a BIG offset. Typically mine run from 20 frames to 9 frames. Figuring out just WHAT the offset is tricky. If you have it figured out, and it is ALWAYS that same amount...then that is good.
Another freaking oddness with FCP. I don't have this issue when outputting to Digibeta...only HDCAM. WOnder if it is a deck/NLE communication issue.
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Can not stripe T/C using Edit-to-tape balck and code function

I am in Edit-to-tape mode, mastering, I have T/C enabled, I am attempting to stripe an NTSC Digibeta; I click black and code and choose the settings and then select starting T/C (00;56;00;02) and click Drop Frame, click OK when it says it will erase the tape, but when it actually starts striping the tape, it does not start at 00;56;00;02, it starts at random times that appear to be generated externally.
How do I actually stripe a tape and re-write T/C?
Sorry, this is my first time doing projects like this.

Decide whether you want drop frame or Non Drop Frame and set the switch accordingly ( switch under the flip out control panel) also verify your in record run here
Set the TC switch on the deck to "INT" and "Preset" then set the TC start time, by pressing the "hold" button. You can now set hours min sec frames by pressing the jog button and rotating the jog wheel. rotate the jog wheel without pressing the jog button to select the next pair of numbers. when you have the desired start TC press the set button. If the deck is connected to black burst and you have no SDI input feeding it, and SDI selected as the input, the deck will generate black when you press record on the deck thus beginning your stripe. Stripe past 1 hr, stop the deck and rewind a little so you're in active code, set the TC switch back to "regen" from "Preset", make your patches put the deck in remote and assemble edit your piece. If you want to do an insert, stripe the tape out about 30 seconds past your last frame.
the dbeta deck will insert or assemble. Not all decks will, some won't even assemble, only hard record. consult the deck manual when in doubt

Edit to tape with Kona Lhe

At work tomorrow, I have to lay a 59.94 sequence on to a DVCPRO HD deck with no firewire option. So I'm using my Kona Lhe with SDI output and deck control. A couple things to ponder... Audio and Video ARE getting to the deck through the SDI. I am able to crash record with no problem. I am able to black and code the tape. No problem there. I black the tape from 58:30 to shortly past 1 hour, 30 seconds. I set my "In Point" to 59:00, but when I go to assemble record the sequence, the "Insert", "Assemble", and "Preview" drop zones are disabled. We tried an SR deck and the drop zones were working, but when it went to start the edit to tape, it rewound the deck all the way to the beginning of the tape and then sat there. Tried every possible combination of device preferences. I gotta figure this out if I want to work here again. Patrick, I'm looking in your direction.

This guy was trying to do the same thing:
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/923999?pview=t#head
But...you don't have ASSEMBLE as an option? And you are dragging the sequence from the browser into the EDIT TO TAPE window, right?
Shane

Edit to Tape... intermitant error with start T/C

Having a problem using assemble & insert edit.. when outputting using Edit to Tape with a start T/C at 01:00:00:00, the first frame often starts at 00:59:59:24 (PAL so that's one frame early).. doesn't happen all the time, but enough to be really annoying...
Am using a KONA LS video card with a black burst generator. First noticed the problem years ago with a DSR11 outputting to DVCAM and assumed it was probably an issue with the DVCAM deck being useless, but this is happening with a DVW500.. so it's rather annoying as it causes all sorts of problems with audio finish etc.

timecode needs to be set to internal regen after you preset and stripe about 10 seconds ahead of your sequence start time. so if you need to start bars at 58;30;00 start stripe at 58;20;00 and go past 58;30;00. then do your assemble with deck set to internal regen.
FCP does not output TC

Which is higher quality, edit to tape or print to video on digital betacam?

Which is gives higher quality results, edit to tape or print to video on digital betacam?

They should be the same quality.
Edit to tape will allow you control over making sure your program starts at 01:00:00;00.
Neither will send your timecode from the timeline. Edit to tape allows you to assemble your program starting at an in point set on your tape.

Edit to Tape Function Changed?

A few versions ago, FCP's Edit to Tape function popped up a screen that gave you options for applying bars and tone, slate, and black slugs, etc..etc.. After those options were decided you had a button to start the recording to tape process.
Now in version 5.1.2, this screen is coming up in a tab in the canvas rather than center screen on a separate pop up. The problem with this is, I can't find the "go" button to start the recording process. Am I to now manually start my decks to record and then start playback on the time line to get things going?

To get B&T and Black and Slate, after you set those up, make sure the center pulldown is on Mastering and not Editing... And make sure you have an IN set. Then you should be able to either assemble, or insert edit to tape, depending on your setup...
Patrick

Help urgently needed with edit to tape / print to video error

I have tried to edit to tape and print to video a sequence (0my whole project, worked for way too many nights to let go... so frustrated and sad right now because it doesn't work.
The project is saved on an extern harddisk, my harddrive on teh pc is too full (not big enough).
My camera and FCP connects but all the time I get an error that 'the tape may be locked' . AND I HAVE TRIED WITH DIFFERENT TAPES, none of them were locked!
I am not really sure how to set the camera in this VTR mode... I have tried in the settings to set it in webcam mode... and I have tried without... and I dont have a button or setting called VTR, only a *PLAY' option or a 'FILMØ option....
My A/V settings are FireWire PAL and DA PAL 48khz ... however have no ide what that means or if these should be changed...?
I checked from apple but cannot find my DV cam on the list... hmm, does that mean I cannot do edit to tape recordings???
My Dv cams informations:
NV-GS140 by Panasonic, Model 0x80330B, 0x804580114B5DD1
I checked the system settings and was able to the FireWire/NV-GS140 Unit
I have a MacBook1,1 / Intel Core Duo/ 2 GHz
OS 10.4.11
I use the version FCP 2
Please help me out, I am really without any good suggestions how to proceed!

You're going to have to use a dvd authoring program. Burning the seq to a dvd qill just create a qt movie on a dvd data disc. It won't create a dvd video disc that plays in a dvd player.
Export from fcp a QT movie, current settings, self-contained. Use Anamorphicizer (http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Video/Anamorphicizer.shtml) to make imovie recognise it as 16:9. Then import that file to idvd.
Or you can drop your 16:9 sequence into a new 4:3 sequence to letterbox it, then you can do the export as above but skip the anamorphicizer step.
It's better to use compressor on the original 16:9 sequence and then use dvdsp to author, but if you've never used dvdsp it's a big program to get your head round.
The export can be done in two ways;
1. Export from fcp using 'export using compressor'.
2. Export a QT ref/self-contained movie and import that into compressor.
3. Export a QT movie and import it direct into DVDSP.
The second option will take longer initially (if you use the self-contained option) but will then allow compressor to work in the background, the first option will tie up fcp for the duration of the encode.
Once in compressor use one of the 16:9 dvd presets, depending on the duration of the movie and the quality you want. Don't try to adjust the settings. If your movie is 31 mins just use the shortest option (i think it's 60min) and make sure you select the m2v video and ac3 audio options. If you just select the mpeg 2 video you'll only get video, as you've discovered.
Open dvdsp and create your opening menu and a video track, import the movie file, add it to the video track, and then add the audio to the track as well. Then add any chapter submenus you may want.

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