EDL export issue

I'm the assistant editor on a feature thats being cut on FCP HD Studio and I've hit a problem with the EDL.
The film was transferred from 35mm to BETA and then to DVCAM and I logged everything with 24fps capture settings and have been editing on a 24 fps sequence.
The problem is this-
The opening shot on my sequence starts at 01:00:30:08 along the time line and the media details are- start: 10:11:55:14 and end: 10:11:59:11 and ending at 01:00:34:06 on the timeline.
so according to my sequence on FCP for the first clip in the first reel
in point
01:00:30:08
media start
10:11:55:14
media end
10:11:59:11
out point
01:00:34:06
but in my EDL the first clip starts at the same point, at 01:00:30:08, but the media details are different- start: 10:37:25:03 and end: 10:37:29:01, ending on the timeline at 01:00:34:06, as on my sequence.
so according to my EDL for the first clip of the first reel-
in point
01:00:30:08
media start
10:37:25:03
media end
10:37:29:01
out point
01:00:34:06
So the media information in the EDL is completely different from what FCP is telling me. Also, none of the camera rolls run to any longer than 23 minutes so it is impossible that there would be a media start point at 10:37:25:03 or end point at 10:37:29:01.
The EDL is CMX3600 and I've run the clips through Cinema Tools to conform them to 24fps, all clips are on one track and the only effects in the sequence are a two transitional dissolves.
This continues to be a problem throughout the EDLs for all the reels.
Does this have anything to do with the transfer from BETA to DVCAM? is this a 24fps/25fps problem? Any possible solutions?
Thanks,
Kate.
g5 powermac dual 2.3ghz Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Kate
We are in the same boat, I'm cutting a UK 24 fps feature and can see all the cmx edls are wrong.
I also assume that yours is a Pal 24 project, ie shot 24 on film, transfered on tk at 25, loaded at 25 in cinema tools from flex file, conformed to 24, then edited in a sequence set at pal 24@25.
I do this and can make great key code lists, no errors at all. BUT cmx is all wrong.
I have tested the 24 code idea and this seems to be the problem.
Sorry for all the maths but....in your example with an in point 10:11:55:24. In frames that is 917889 frames (10 hrs * 60 * 60 *25 ADD 11mins * 60 * 25 ADD 55sec * 25 ADD 14 frame total 917889) Now if we convert the edl in point (10:37:25:03) to frames but at 24 fps I make that 917883 frames. Only 6 out, which is a worry so check your burn in codes. But in my own examples every one works out as a perfect 24/25 translation. Eg.1 burn in 01:07:00:00 @25fps = 100500 frames EDL code @24fps 01:09:47:12 = 100500 frames. Eg.2 burn in 19:30:00:00 @25fps = 1755000 frames EDL code @24fps 20:18:45:00 = 1755000 frame. Hope all my maths are good/___sbsstatic___/migration-images/migration-img-not-avail.png .
A further check in your EDL will be is TC 20hours on tape 19 or 20. If you transfered like most people in the UK then you will have used tc20 hrs for tape 20 with tape 21 going back to TC 01 hrs.
The EDL record in points are always good as the sequence time is 24 fps in your display and in the edl.
The problem is that on this side of the pond we tend to use timecode to neg cut and in the US that is mostly unthinkable, I'm not sure Apple realise that.
We have another problem, how do we make a tape for the neg cutter with a 1 frame film = 1frame video like we would on an AVID. Sorry, but I don't know. The only advice I get is USE KEY CODE and a QTime, but as you are finding out, the neg cutters don't like that. We could get work print and conform that, then neg cut but we don't have the budget for that on my film.
Sorry to seem a bit negative but I have read one heck of a lot about this, talked with Apple help etc but still seem to have no answer. Worryingly, the Cinematools 3 PDF manual, a must read, page32 seems to say that you can't work at PAL 24 and make a video when finished/___sbsstatic___/migration-images/migration-img-not-avail.png I know of a few UK films who use FC but work in 25fps and see the movie at the correct speed once everything is finished, well thats not for me.
Please please please let me know if you or anyone else has a work around for this as I find editing on FC great. And I know all the film stuff works in NTSC.
Best
John
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