Effect of revenue planning on project cost.

Hi Expersts,
I am creating a sales order and attaching it to WBS element. I have entered amount for which i want to bill to customer as per price conditions for a item in sales order.Now this value of sales order is captured as a revenue in WBS element (When i run CNS41).
Now when i am creating a billing document and the accounting document, the actual revenue is also getting reflected against the WBS element (In CNS41).
This way i am planning to bill to customer.
Questions are
1. In my case this is the one time billing to customer and hence i am not using the milestone billing. Then is this a correct method?
2. At present i dont see any effect of revenue on cost of project. Can anybody guide me on is there any effect of this revenue on planned and actual cost of the project during the project closure stage?
Thanks

1 ok
2 no effect of rev on planned and actual cost - cost and rev are two different things for cns41

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Revenue Planning
Use
Revenue planning can be necessary when you perform results analysis on a sales order item and use a results analysis method that uses the planned revenues to calculate the results analysis data.
Features
The net value (revenue) for sales-order-related production is determined in pricing in Sales and Distribution (SD). Pricing depends on specific conditions which you maintain in Sales and Distribution.
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Condition Type
Meaning
EK01
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EK02
CGM (statistical)
EK03
Fixed CGM (statistical)
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Condition type EK02 is mainly used when the sales price is a market price and the expected costs are only used for informational purposes.
Condition type EK03 offers the capability of transferring the fixed costs of a cost estimate into the conditions.
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Through the sales document type
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Through the requirements class
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Integration
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Prerequisites
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Features
Billing
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Which pricing procedure is used for account determination for Financial Accounting
Whether the invoices are passed immediately to Financial Accounting
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The chart of accounts
The sales organization
The account assignment group of the customer (in the Account group field in the Invoicing screen of the customer master record)
The account assignment group of the material (in the Account assignment group field in the Sales 2 view of the material master record)
The account key in the pricing procedure
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Edited by: Alvaro Tejada Galindo on Apr 15, 2008 3:10 PM

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