Error with dual boot Win 8/OL6 R3
Hello,
I am hoping to discuss this with someone who has experience with this configuration. My goal is to get Oracle Linux dual booting on my windows 8 machine.
I have installed OL but I am having trouble getting it to dual boot win8/OL using the windows boot menu. Whereas windows 8 boots as expected, the Oracle Linux option gives me the error:
"+Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause...contact you system administrator or computer manufacturer for assistance+
+File:+ \NST\nst_linux.mbr
+Status: 0xc000007b+
+Info: The selected application or operating system couldn't be loaded because a required file is missing or contains errors.+"
Here are some details of the scenario:
- Documentation followed: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-6-Installation_Guide-en-US.pdf
- Hardware: Dell Precision M4700 64 bit UEFI
- OEM installed/Default OS: Windows 8 Pro 64 bit
- Installation source: OracleLinux-R6-U3-Server-x86_64-dvd.iso (written to DVD)
These are the broad steps I followed:
In windows 8
I:
- downloaded the Linux ISO software. The checksum on the download matched
- wrote the ISO to a bootable installation disk
- created a new 344gb partition for Linux using the DOS DISKPART command - partition 7
Linux Install
- I booted using the Linux installation DVD and started the installation
- When Installing Linux partition 7 became a 500mb system partition and partition 8 became the 343 gb Linux partition
- I manually created the boot partition as ext3 (because the pdf I was following said "+If your 64-bit x86 system uses UEFI instead of BIOS, you will need to manually create a /boot partition. This partition must have an ext3 file system. If you choose to partition automatically, your system will not boot.+"
- I installed the boot loader on sda7. I selected “First sector of boot partition - /dev/sda7”. I assume this installs separate GRUB boot loader on the Linux partition (7) – which will then be 'chain loaded' from the windows boot menu. Put another way, it will boot with the windows boot manager, which will give me an option to chain load the Grub boot loader, which will then run Linux...
- I chose the desktop installation
- The installation reported that it completed successfully
I successfully booted back into windows:
- I used easybcd to edit the microsoft bcd and successfully created a boot menu for Oracle Linux. I used the legacy grub because the Linux documentation says "+Note that the version of GRUB in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 is an old and stable version now known as "GRUB Legacy" since upstream development moved to GRUB 2.3 Red Hat remains committed to maintaining the version of GRUB that we ship with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6, just as we do with all packages that we ship.+".
- After installing Linux and updating the BCD, the BCD now looks like this:
Windows Boot Manager
identifier {bootmgr}
path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
integrityservices Enable
default {current}
resumeobject {2b56acdd-8bbe-11e2-9ba6-b8ca3ad88679}
displayorder {current}
{524cc0d3-8bce-11e2-935f-b8ca3ad88679}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30
Windows Boot Loader
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
description Windows 8
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {524cc0d1-8bce-11e2-935f-b8ca3ad88679}
integrityservices Enable
recoveryenabled Yes
isolatedcontext Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {2b56acdd-8bbe-11e2-9ba6-b8ca3ad88679}
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard
Real-mode Boot Sector
identifier {524cc0d3-8bce-11e2-935f-b8ca3ad88679}
device partition=C:
path \NST\nst_linux.mbr
description OracleLinux
I'm not sure the BCD entry is correct. I assume that this entry should be pointing to the nst_linux.mbr on the Linux boot partition. However I have verified that this file exists in windows 8:
C:\NST\nst_linux.mbr
I haven't been able to exactly confirm how the boot process should work i.e. whether this file should actually be in the Linux boot partition (as opposed to the windows c drive) and whether the BCD should also point to the Linux boot partition when referring to this partition.
As I mentioned above, I now have the windows boot menu with Windows 8 (which boots successfully) and Oracle Linux (which gives me the error see below for complete wording**). Is the Real-mode Boot sector wrong? Should it point to the Linux boot partition? Is it a problem with my UEFI disk? I don't think it should be because this version of Oracle Linux supports UEFI and my hardware is UEFI.
Has anyone carried out a similar win8/OL dual boot?
2001
** Complete wording of the Linux boot option in the windows boot manager:
Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause. To fix the problem:
1. Insert your Windows installation disk and restart the computer.
2. Choose your language settings, and then click "next".
3. Click "Repair your computer".
If you do not have this disk, contact you system administrator or computer manufacturer for assistance
File: \NST\nst_linux.mbr
Status: 0xc000007b
Info: The selected application or operating system couldn’t be loaded because a required file is missing or contains errors.
Edited by: 2001 on Apr 1, 2013 4:27 PM
Edited by: 2001 on Apr 17, 2013 5:17 PM
Hi,
Here are my responses:
*[asmirnov]* Could you please confirm, I just want to see if I got it right the first time -
*[2001]* I'm happy to share my progress
Q1)
*[asmirnov]* You did create a partition (where you would install Linux) from Win8, correct?
*[2001]* Yes. I used diskmgmt.msc to create a separate partition. I didn't format the partition because the Linux install doesn't want that, it creates and formats the partitions in the unallocated partition
Q2)
*[asmirnov]* You use GRUB (not GRUB2)?
*[2001]* I'm not sure where you were asking about, so I hope my answer here covers all possibilities you may have meant.
I was using the windows 8 boot. I wanted to chain load to the boot loader in the Linux Partition. It is interesting what the Linux install did with my partition, it created 2 partitions in the unformatted partition. 1 was a bootable partition and the other was the Linux partition. The details were:
2 sda’s (a boot / ext4 and a VolGroup (vg_linuxlocalhost)/ physical volume (LVM) ). In the VolGroup it created 3 lv’s, lv_root, lv_home and lv_swap. I understand that this is all normal.
I followed the documentation note which said "To configure the Red Hat Enterprise Linux boot loader to chain load from a different boot loader, you must specify the boot drive manually. If you chose any of the automatic partitioning options, you must now select the Review and modify partitioning layout option before you click Next or you cannot specify the correct boot drive"
So there was also the note in the documentation that said "Note that the version of GRUB in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 is an old and stable version now known as "GRUB Legacy" since upstream development moved to GRUB 2.3 Red Hat remains committed to maintaining the version of GRUB that we ship with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6, just as we do with all packages that we ship." I didn't install any bootloaders manually (either the windows 8 OOTB default that came with my machine or the Linux one), I just took the defaults. I'm wasn't sure how to access the Linux partitions once it is installed, so I can't confirm it was the legacy GRUB in the Linux boot partition, but I believe this note is saying that it OL6 does use the legacy grub. I believe GRUB Legacy is version .97.
Q3)
*[asmirnov]* Which version of Linux exactly did you use, was that Oracle Linux or you used one from RedHat directly? What is the kernal version?
*[2001]* I used "OracleLinux-R6-U3-Server-x86_64-dvd.iso.sha1sum" from the mirror site http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/oraclelinux/OL6/U3/x86_64/. According to the release notes at: https://oss.oracle.com/ol6/docs/RELEASE-NOTES-U3-en.html the kernel is
- Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel Release 2 [kernel-uek-2.6.39-200.24.1.el6uek]. Installed and booted by default
- Red Hat compatible Kernel [kernel-2.6.32-279.el6]. Installed by default
Note: By default, both the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel and the Red Hat Compatible Kernel for the specific architecture (i386 or x86_64) are installed, and the system boots the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by default. If needed, /etc/grub.conf and /etc/sysconfig/kernel can be modified to make the system boot with the Red Hat Compatible Kernel by default.
Regarding your follow-up point that "Microsoft blocks 3rd party chainloaders from the BCD menu for UEFI machines. We are researching workarounds, none have presented themselves as of yet.", I'm not sure it actually blocks it, but it certainly isn't a straight forward process.
I have actually abandoned my attempt to get the dual boot working. It is a real shame because I wanted to do it for my own satisfaction.
I am now using Oracle Virtual Box as suggested by others, include Dude earlier in this thread. This has given me confidence that I was doing all the right things because the install worked first time without any problems. The virtualization is much simpler and I have had no problems so far.
Fusion
As for your point about the fusion middleware and OL5. I am looking at Oracle SOA with is part of the Fusion brand. I think that the latest SOA components will work on OL6 - but I have yet to try it. Following the certification matrix can be a little difficult. So as I indicated above, my current thoughts are to use the Oracle Virtual Box with Linux r6 u3 and to install the SOA components on that when I get chance. The alternative is using the pre-built virtual machine it has Linux and SOA (it might cover your stack too, or there may be another one that suits you better on the site) http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/middleware/soasuite/learnmore/vmsoa-172279.html. Note that this is still on OL5.
I hope this helps.
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password --md5 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
title Sabayon Linux x86 3.25
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/ram0 ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sda2 quiet init=/linuxrc splash=silent,theme:sabayon CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 pci=nomsi vga=0x31b
initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r4
title Windows XP Professional
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)
chainloader +1
makeactive
title VectorLinux 5.8 Std Gold
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=795
title Arch Linux Voodoo
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sda5 ro vga=795
initrd /boot/kernel26.img
Last edited by RabidWolf (2007-01-31 12:32:39) -
Thinkpad x130e dual boot Win 7 and 8
So, I bought a new Seagate SSD Hybrid drive with the intention of dual booting Windows 7 and Windows 8. However, upon using my restore DVD's to reinstall Windows 7 on the new drive I hit a snag when trying to install Windows 8. The Win8 intall says that the drive needs to be GPT and it is currently MBR. So after removing the partitions and changing the drive to GPT I re-restore the Win7 OS. Then to my dismay I find that the drive has gone back to MBR during the restore proceedure.
Is there a way to edit the restore proceedure so that it doesn't change the drive over to an MBR drive?
Thanks,
Mattthe Arch partition should take some space from the windows7_os partition. You should keep the Lenovo_Recovery partition if you don't have a Windows installation DVD, or if you think you may want to reset your hard drive to its original state someday. In my laptop I have completely removed it.
I have a dual boot of Archlinux/Windows7, and I use the following partitioning
/dev/sda1 ntfs 60.0GiB /media/C (for windows os)
/dev/sda2 (extended partition)
/dev/sda3 swap 4.0GiB swap
/dev/sda4 ext4 30.0GiB root
/dev/sda5 ext4 30.0GiB home
/dev/sda6 ntfs 376GiB /media/D
I use the last partition as a shared partition between Arch and Windows, for storing music and videos... I use it also for installing games, so that I can play them either from windows or from Arch by using wine.
I'm not saying this is the best way to do it, but this has been working for me, also I don't use a separate /boot partition, I used to have it when I had multiple Linux distros, but with Arch alone I don't find it necessary. -
Downgrade HP ENVY 15-u010dx to win 7, or duala boot win 7 and wind 8
i have brand new HP ENVY 15-u010dx with windows 8.1 installed.
Because of my needs (worrk related) i need win 7 installed.
Is it possible to install win 7 dual boot with win 8.1 ?
Does win 7 work on this machine, do you have drivers for win 7 x64
i'm asking this since i saw option in bios that has to be disabled to run win 7.
please help me..thanks in advance..Hello @bigheadx,
I understand that your notebook computer takes a long time to reach the Windows log in screen after you power it on, and I would be happy to assist you in this matter!
To ensure there are no background programs or services that are slowing the booting process of your operating system, I recommend following the steps in this document on Windows 8 Safe Mode. I also suggest following this resource on Resolving slow system performance (Windows 8) to increase the speed and efficiency of your operating system.
Please re-post with the results of your troubleshooting, and I look forward to your reply!
Regards
MechPilot
I work on behalf of HP
Please click “Accept as Solution ” if you feel my post solved your issue, it will help others find the solution.
Click the “Kudos, Thumbs Up" on the right to say “Thanks” for helping! -
Add'l Partitions to Dual-Boot Win 8/Arch Linux
I'm hoping to get a dual-boot arrangement going on my refurbished Asus Q200E Netbook that Santa brought!
Here's what the hard drive looks like now:
Asus tells me the following:
sda1: System Files to start
sda2: Recovery
sda3: OS automatically created when an OS is installed
sda4: Operating System [Clearly Win 8 is here]
sda5: Unallocated space (and yet it's formatted and has 25.5 MB of data written on it)
sda6: Add'l files for recovery
What's the best approach to create my needed linux partitions? Shrink sda4, and slide sda5 & sda6 to the left?
Any tips/suggestions/warnings would be greatly appreciated! Does anyone know if my touchscreen will work under Arch...?
Thanks in advance!
Last edited by wilberfan (2013-12-28 00:32:21)wilberfan wrote:
alezost wrote:I had similar partitions on my ASUS X75V except of your sda5 (i didn't have it). I just shrank sda4 (from Windows8 just in case), and then i used the new space for ext4 partitions (this time i used gparted).
I'm in the process of doing something similar (also using gparted). Does your Asus have a touchscreen, and did it work after installing Arch? How many ext4 partitions did you use to install Arch?
No, i don't have a touchscreen, i hope the wiki will help you with that.
I just used 2 partitions (one for "/" and one for "/home"). -
Has anyone got any thoughts or have you yourself purchased the MBP with Retina display and added the dual boot system with windows?
I desperately need to update my gear and want a MBP.
I'm a full time photographer at my local paper and freelance photographer - use computers A LOT, and only use windows. I've experienced mac and know I prefer it, the way it runs pleases me a whole lot more and for the amount i'm processing/working I need something that will keep up.
With 12 years of photoshop gear loaded up for all my photo processing etc, I'm wanting to add Windows and have use of both. Windows would run photoshop that I had already purchased some time ago - question is, how will it run? what will the display be like running Windows on Mac with the retina display?
I use CS4 at the moment and can't afford to upgrade to CS6 just yet, plus i'd waste a lot of what I already have by starting again on Mac. I'd use Mac for everything else, need the use of Windows for portions of what I do.
About to head to Canada and want to get set up for the road. Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks heaps!There are some drawbacks, running Windows 7 (only) on a Mac via Bootcamp yields less than stellar results, especially with the Retina display.
And of your traveling, the Mac's high power needs (especially the Retina display) and lack of removable battery are going to be a serious issue. The Retina display is glossy, not ideal for viewing on the road and in varied environments.
CS4 won't run on the OS X version that comes with a Mac, so your looking at purchasing CS6.
Support for Windows is more widespread than for Mac's, also if you ever need to redownload OS X to fix a issue, requires a fast reliable Internet connection of the broadband kind.
If your running Windows on your Mac, you can expect to be on your own and not get support as easily as if you were running it on a regular PC.
If you can't afford to keep up with CS upgrades, then you shouldn't be considering a Mac because there are more paid upgrades on that than on Windows 7, it's like a annual nightmare.
IMMO your still better off on a decent, 1920 x 1080 res, matte screen, removable battery (with extras), Win 7 Pro i7 machine (Pro+ runs XP programs) which will stay like it is and get security updates until 2020.
OS X changes every year and if you don't upgrade, + all your third party software, then about 3 years later your left behind for updates.
Also you will have to buy Win 7 to run on your Mac, the OEM disks won't work.
If your trying to budget, then a Mac is certainly not for you. -
Inconsistent grub error 17, dual booting issues
Hello,
I've recently installed Arch as a second OS on my computer, but I'm having a bit of trouble when it comes to booting it. I'm a bit new to Linux in general, but I've tried to research the problem, and seem to have run into a wall. Any comments, insight, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Preemptive apologies for being windy, I'm trying to give as much relevant info as possible here
****************Here are the details:******************
-1st hard drive (sda): Windows 7
-2nd hard drive (sdb): Arch
Partitioning scheme:
sdb1 = boot, about 100Mb, ext2
sdb2 = swap, ~2gig
sdb3 = root, ~20gig, ext3
sdb4 = home, the rest (HD is 500gb total), ext3
-grub is installed on the MBR of sdb
-windows has no problems booting independently (when i disconnect my second hard drive), so sda hasn't been touched at all
in grub's menu.lst:
arch has root set to (hd1,0)
windows 7 has rootnoverify set to (hd0,0), with chainloader +1 after.
**************The issue:********************
when choosing to boot arch from grub, (this is booting off of the second hard drive), i get an error 17, saying the filesystem is unrecognized and the partition type is 0x7.
if i then enter into the command line mode for grub, and try
find /grub/stage1
it spits out (hd0,0), which is incorrect. it should be (hd1,0) since my boot partition is the first partition on the second hard drive, and (hd0,0) is an entirely different hard drive with nothing but windows on it.
An interesting complication:
If I boot the USB iso image of arch I used to originally install it, and I highlight the option "boot existing OS", press tab to change hd0 0 to hd1 0, it loads up Grub, and from there on Grub boots perfectly fine to Arch - implying that at the very least Arch installed on the hard drive properly. Also, Grub run in this fashion seems to realize that (hd1,0) is ext2.
After booting arch as in the previous paragraph^ (note, this is arch as installed on the hard drive, not the liveCD version), i run:
grub
grub> find /grub/stage1
and it replies that stage1 is in hd(1,0), which is where it should be.
Googling suggests my partitions are somehow messed up, but I'm not completely sure of that. Booting from the USB image and running
fdisk -l
seems to give the right partition order and sizes.
However, there could be a problem stemming from how I partitioned the second hard drive in the first place: it's an Advanced Format drive, and using Western Digital's guidelines - http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5655 - i ran:
parted -a optimal /dev/sdb
and created my partitions, then used the Arch installer to establish their file systems and do the rest.
I don't have any concrete ideas about what's going on, except that Grub is somehow having trouble mounting/recognizing the file system when I try to run it from the MBR directly.
Once again, sorry for such a long post, and any help at all is greatly appreciated.Ok, so I've tried to reconfigure my grub/menu.lst as described in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pe … t_managers .
When I try to boot after that, it claims that the device /dev/disk/by-uuid/*the uuid i got for my boot partition* cannot be found.
This next paragraph might be a bit of a facepalm moment; in retrospect, it seems like it should be obvious that this would happen (like lifeafter2am is saying, my drives are getting switched at boot up):
After booting up grub in a bunch of different configurations, I've managed to determine that what my computer does is this:
- In the bios, I changed the boot order to be USB -> 2nd hard drive (the one with arch on it) -> first hard drive (since I use a USB for a liveCD, and the 2nd hard drive's MBR has grub on it, which i want to use to dual boot both arch and windows, windows being on the first hard drive).
So every time I insert the usb, it changes what grub perceives to be hd0 and hd1. When I insert the usb, the usb becomes hd0, and the other drives are renumbered. When I try to boot without the USB, having the BIOS boot from my second hard drive makes the second hard drive become hd0.
What with ^ going on, I simply went in to the grub/menu.lst and changed arch's (hd1,0) to (hd0,0), and now it recognizes that (hd0,0) is indeed an ext2 fs, partition type 0x83, etc.
The problem now is: no matter what I try to set the root in menu.lst to be, whether it's sdb1, sda1, some uuid label, grub starts booting and then says error: unable to mount the real root device, and dumps me into a shell with a good luck message.
Is there a way to figure out what i should set grub's root in menu.lst to be, from the arch iso on my USB, keeping in mind the fact that inserting the USB renumbers the hard drives?
I don't wanna make the analogy to quantum mechanics, but this almost seems like an observer disturbing the results type of thing >_<
Last edited by sergs (2012-02-12 01:18:54)
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