Excise determination
Hi
what is the difference between formula based and condition based excise determination
Regards
Subir
hi,
Conditionbased -we need to create condition records using FV11 for all excise duties that apply, and enter the tax code for condition-based excise determination in each.
Formula based- You need to maintain J1ID parameters
The system automatically determines the rate of excise duty as follows:
1.Looks up the customer master data to see what status you have assigned the customer.
Let's assume you've assigned the customer status 3.
2.Looks up the plant master data to see what status you have assigned the plant.
Similarly, your plant has status 2.
3.The system looks up the table under Excise Indicator for Plant and Customer to see what the final excise duty indictor is for customer status 3 and plant status 2: It is 7.
The system determines the chapter ID of the ball bearing for the plant.
Letu2019s assume the chapter ID at plant for the ball bearings is 1000.01.
Finally, the system looks up the table under Excise Tax Rate to see what rate of duty applies to chapter ID 1000.01 under status 7.
Please check the below link for further details-
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/08/34bc3cdc322866e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Award if helpful
Regards,
Vineet
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CIN - with TAXINJ and "condition based excise determination"
Dear All,
Can I use TAXINJ with "condition based excise determination" for CIN implemenation. We already have TAXINJ and some plants are already working on it.
If anyone already using the same, please share the problems faced / experience.
Actually I done settings for above scenario, but while GRN I am getting Message as " BED, AED and SED for the excise item is zero". And BED not getting populated while doing GRn.
I have created a tax code "C1" and assigned to company code.
THen I have maintained condition record for JMOP in FV11 for BED. ALso settings done J1ID.
PO is created with this tax code C1, taxes are getting calculated when
checked at Invoice tab at PO.
But while making GRN message comes "BED, AED and SED for the excise
item is zero" and excise values dont shows at excise tab in MIGO
RegardsGo through
https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPLO/CIN+Configuration
and
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/09/ebf138cdd78a4be10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Hope you will get good idea -
Excise determination procedures
Which of the following excise procedures are best and being used by thevcompanies:
1. condition-based excise determination
2. formula-based excise determination
Which one has the advantage over the other?
Regards
VSHi VS,
In Condition based excise determination, When you create a purchase order, the System automatically calculates the applicable excise duties using the condition technique. We need to Create condition records for all excise duties that apply, and enter the tax code for condition-based excise determination.
When you enter a purchase order or other purchasing document, enter the tax code for condition-based excise determination in each line item. The system then calculates the excise duties using the condition records you have created. When the ordered materials arrive, you post the goods receipt and the excise invoice. The system posts the excise duty to the appropriate accounts for deductible input taxes when you enter the excise invoice.
In the case of Formula based excise determination In order the system able to determine which rate of excise duty to apply, you must maintain all the data on the Excise Rate Maintenance screen. We need to maintain data such as plant master data, vendor master data, customer master data and material master data. When you post the system automatically determines the rate of excise duty as follows:
It Looks up the customer master data to see what status you have assigned the customer then it looks up the plant master data to see what status you have assigned the plant. Based on that it finds the final excise duty indicator set for the above combination. The system determines the chapter ID of the material for the plant. Finally, the system looks up the table under Excise Tax Rate to see what rate of duty applies to chapter ID under status found the above combination.
TAXINN only supports condition-based excise determination, whereas TAXINJ supports condition-based excise determination and formula-based excise determination. Both tax procedures contain condition types that cover all of the excise duties and sales taxes applicable. So based on the above we can decide which is advantage for our business process.
Hope this helps.
regards
Anand.C -
Amount is not Determined while creating excise invoice
Dear Gurus,
I have created Excise invoice with reference to Billing Document F2.
In Sales order and Billing Doucment Pricing Procedures determine BED, SED, AED by using Factory Pricing Procedures Which is Condition Based.
But when I am creating excise invoice with reference to Billing Document, the value of BED, AED, SED will not coming.
I had also save the data in Logistic General - Tax on goods movement - india - determination of excise duty - condition based excise determination - classify condition types.
over here i maintained the data for my particular pricing procedure along with condition type which i am using.
May I know where is my mistake
Suneet PrakashHi Lakshmi,
I had also maintained this setting also but still its not coming in my excise invoice.
what will be the setting which basically activate that amount.
i dont know means upto billing i am able to see the excise duties
but in excise invoice its not showing.
one more thing what are these excise transaction types
why we require this. can i get some document regarding this.
document in which i will get the information about all the customising setting regarding CIN.
Please help me out.
Suneet. -
Cenvat clearing account is not coming in MIRO for Basic excise
Dear sir,
I have created the PO . After that i did GR for same at that I capture excise invocie& post it.
Accounting document is created for the same
here is accounting enrtry
cenvat Basic = 100 debit
cenvat edu cess = 2 debit
Cenvat Higher Ecess =1 debit.
Cenvat clearing account = 103 credit
when i go the miro
after simulating in miro i found
cenvat clearing account = 2 debit
but it should be 103 debit
why this is coming please help me...Hi,
Generally it happens if CENVAT Clearing Account in not assigned in OB40 to the Tax Account Keys. But, as per you it has been maintained. So the following if you are using Tax Procedure TAXINN;
SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Basic Settings > Determination of Excise Duty > Condition-Based Excise Determination > Classify Condition Types -
Excise invoice using taxinn procedure.
I am using TAXINN(condition based), so i am using all the default/standard condition type in the said tax procedure as well.
Tax on Goods Movements - India - Basic Settings - Determination of Excise Duty - Maintain Excise Defaults
i maintained only the CVD cond, since i am using condition based.
next on FV11,
i created the condition records for the condition type(in TAXINN) using key combination of (plant/vendor/material).
i only maintained 2 condition type which i need so far(JAIP and JSIP).
next on ME21N,
after i created the PO, under invoice tab, i clicked on the "TAXES" button. the 2 tax condition type JAIP(IN AED inventory %) and JSIP(IN SED inventory %) are showing the the correct % and amount.
next on MIGO-GR for the PO,
under the excise item tab, the amount is not showing up for the JAIP and JSIP, it's still 0.
but for the BED field, it's showing the correct amount from the pricing determination condition type that i defined in CVD cond.
why is the AED/ SED still showing zero but in PO the correct amount is showing??
another question on the defining of tax code
Tax on Goods Movements - India - Basic Settings - Determination of Excise Duty - Condition-Based Excise Determination - Define Tax Code for Purchasing Documents
i can't seem to enter the Tax Percent Rate for the cond type in the tax code, it will be blank out the next time i access the tax code, is it supposed to be like this since i had already maintained the 2 tax condition type earlier on using FV11?
Pls take note that i have done all the necessary tagging assignment of tax procedure/tax code to the company code and this is where i get the step for configuring TAXINN procedure. http://it.toolbox.com/wiki/index.php/SAP_CIN-MM_Customizing_For_Tax_Procedure-TAXINN
is there any missing steps in it?Hi
The error message you have posted, lot of threads are there in this forum, hope some of them are useful.
error : balance in transaction currency
Balance in Transaction currency
Re: Balance in Transaction Currency-J1IIN
Regards
Vamsi Javaji -
EXCISE INVOICE j1iin ,BED,AED
HI,
When we create Excise invoice in J1IIN with reference to commercial invoice but excise invoice showing blank in field of BED while i am creating excise invoice with refernce to Billing document.even Billing document is having the value like BED AED and i also ,
maintain all your excise condition types.
Path:SPRO-Log General-Tax on Goods Movements-India-Basic Settings-Determination of Excise Duty-Maintain Excise Defaults.
please help
thanksHi,
Please check the following setting before creating invoice.
IMG u2013 Logistic General u2013 Tax on goods movements u2013 India u2013 Basic Setting u2013 Determination of excise duty - maintain excise defaults
Over here check out your condition type should be properly assign to respective BED, AED.
IMG u2013 Logistic General u2013 Tax on goods movements u2013 India u2013 Basic Setting u2013 Determination of excise duty u2013 select tax calculation procedure.
Over there check out whether your pricing procedure assign to India.
IMG u2013 Logistic General u2013 Tax on goods movements u2013 India u2013 Basic Setting u2013 Determination of excise duty u2013 condition based excise determination u2013 classify condition type.
Over here assign your condition type to proper BED, AED function.
Now try to create your excise invoice and check whether value is flowing or not.
Regards
Raj. -
How to create Excise Invoice.
Hi SD Guru's
How to create excise invoice and what is the use of this one and sd point what are the setting required.
Thanks
RajendraIn Indian Manufacturing scenario, Excise Invoice is required when goods move out of factory premises. The process is as under:
Inquiry / Document type IN
Tcode: VA11,VA12,VA13. tables VBAK,VBAP
Quotation / QT
Tcode: VA21,VA22,VA23. tables VBAK,VBAP
Sales Order OR
Tcode: VA01,VA02,VA03. tables VBAK,VBAP
Delivery LF
Tcode: VL01,VL02,VL03. tables LIKP,LIPS
Billing F2
Tcode: VF01,VF02,VF03. tables VBRK,VBRP
Excise Invoice
Tcode: J1IIN
Configuration of CIN Settings:
1.1 Maintain Excise Registration
Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Maintain Excise Basic setting India tax on Goods Movements Registrations
1.2 Maintain Company Code Settings
SPRO Basic settingIndia tax on Goods Movements Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG Maintain Company Code Settings
1.3 Maintain Plant Settings
tax on Goods Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Maintain Plant Basic setting India Movements Settings
1.4 Maintain Excise Groups
SAP Ref. IMGSPRO Maintain Basic setting India tax on Goods Movements Logistics general Excise Groups
1.5 Maintain Series Groups
SAPSPRO Basic setting India tax on Goods Movements Logistics general Ref. IMG Maintain Series Groups
1.6 Maintain Excise Duty Indicators
tax on Goods Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Maintain Excise Duty Basic setting India Movements Indicators
1.7 Maintain Subtransaction Type with Text
India tax on Goods Movements Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Maintain Subtransaction Type with TextBasic setting
1.8 Determination of Excise Duty
tax Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Select Tax Calculation Determination of Excise DutyIndia on Goods Movements Procedure
1.9 Maintain Excise Defaults
SAP Ref.SPRO Determination of ExciseIndia tax on Goods Movements Logistics general IMG Maintain Excise DefaultsDuty
1.10 Condition-Based Excise Determination
tax on Goods Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Define Tax Code for Condition-Based Excise DeterminationIndia Movements Purchasing Documents
1.11 Condition-Based Excise Determination
tax on Goods Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Assign Tax Code to Condition-Based Excise DeterminationIndia Movements Company Codes
1.12 Classify Condition Types
SAPSPRO Condition-BasedIndia tax on Goods Movements Logistics general Ref. IMG Classify Condition TypesExcise Determination
1.13 Maintain Chapter IDs
tax on Goods Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Maintain Chapter ids Master dataIndia Movements
1.14 Assign Users to Material Master Screen Sequence for Excise Duty
SPRO Master dataIndia tax on Goods Movements Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG Assign Users to Material Master Screen Sequence for Excise Duty
1.15 Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction
tax on Goods Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Account determinationIndia Movements Transaction
1.16 Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction
tax on Goods Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Account determinationIndia Movements Transaction
1.17 Incoming Excise Invoices
SAPSPRO BusinessIndia tax on Goods Movements Logistics general Ref. IMG Incoming Excise InvoicesTransactions
1.18 Define Processing Modes Per Transaction
Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Define Processing Modes Business TransactionsIndia tax on Goods Movements Per Transaction
1.19 Define Reference Documents Per Transaction
tax on Goods Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Define Reference Documents Per Business TransactionsIndia Movements Transaction
1.20 Maintain Rejection Codes
SAPSPRO BusinessIndia tax on Goods Movements Logistics general Ref. IMG Maintain Rejection CodesTransactions
1.21 Specify Which Movement Types Involve Excise Invoices
Logistics SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Specify Which Business TransactionsIndia tax on Goods Movementsgeneral Movement Types Involve Excise Invoices
1.22 Outgoing Excise Invoices
tax on Goods Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Assign Outgoing Excise Invoices Business TransactionsIndia Movements Billing Types to Delivery Types
1.23 Maintain Default Excise Groups and Series Groups
Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Outgoing Excise Invoices Business TransactionsIndia tax on Goods Movements Maintain Default Excise Groups and Series Groups
1.24 Subcontracting Attributes
tax on Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Subcontrac Subcontracting Business TransactionsIndia Goods Movementsting Attributes
1.25 Maintain Movement Type Groups
SPRO BusinessIndia tax on Goods Movements Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG Subcontracting SubcontractingTransactions Attributes
1.26 Utilization Determination
SAPSPRO BusinessIndia tax on Goods Movements Logistics general Ref. IMG Utilization Determination UtilizationTransactions
1.27 Specify SAPscript Forms
tax on Logistics general SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Specify Excise Registers Business TransactionsIndia Goods Movements SAPscript Forms
1.28 Number Ranges
SAP Ref. IMGSPRO Number ToolsIndia tax on Goods Movements Logistics general Ranges
1.29 Message Control
SAP Ref. IMG SPRO Message ToolsIndia tax on Goods MovementsLogistics general Control
Regards,
Rajesh Banka -
Excise Duty, Cess and Secondary Cess not displaying in J1IIN
Dear Frnds,
I need a solution for Excise Duty, Cess and Secondary Cess not displaying in J1IIN ( WHILE EXCISE ) but in Invoice it is calculated correctly., ( ie., i need CENVAT Posted, not utilized
after excise invoice generated )
kindly suggest me...
Thanks & Regards
T.ArulvananHI.
Plz check the forllowing settings,
IMG - Logistic General - Tax on Goods Mvt - India - Basic Settings -
1. Maintain Excise Registrations -
Check Proper Indicator for Cess and other settings.
2. Maintain Company Code Settings
3. Maintain Plant Settings
4. Maintain Excise Groups
5. Maintain Series Groups
6. Maintain Excise Duty Indicators
-- Determination of Excise Duty
7. Select Tax Calculation Procedure
--Condition-Based Excise Determination
8. Define Tax code and assign it to company code
Properly maintiain fallowing settings and try again..
Prashant -
Excise Invoice not captured in MIGO
Hi..
I am using TAXINN procedure in which I am using JMOP condition type for BED. In ME21N I am able to see the condition type and values for BED. and I maintained that I can capture the excise invoice at MIGO level.
But while creating MIGO The values are not picked up from the condition type. I have checked all the tax code (2 Tax code) combinations but in vain.
please tell me where is the problem...How the excise data flows from ME21N to MIGO.
Regards
RahulHai,
Maintain the settings in
1.SPRO - IMG - Logistics general - India - Basic settings - Maintain excise defaluts - Maintain the Condition type in the columns for the Tax procdeure TAXINN.
2.SPRO - IMG - Logistics general - India - Basic settings - Condition based excise determination - Classsify condition types.
3.SPRO - IMG - Logistics general - India - Basic settings - Business transactions - Incoming excise invoices. here maintain 101 mvt type with registers. -
Excise tab not required in MIGO if tax code is different
Hello,
There is one business requirement
we have two special type of TAx codes. If material is maintained in J1ID with chapter id combination.
then system will propose us the excise tab in MIGO (ECC 6.0).
My requirement is if suppose we used the "Y1" tax code then system should not propose the excise tab in MIGO.
what happen stores person does not know for which material he has to capture the excise. every material he has to capture the excise.
This same material some time we have capture the excise(based on tax code) so that is the reason we have maintained this material in J1ID.
how to do?HI,
Use two different Tax code. Let's A for used as dedectable Tax(Convet Benefit)
A should have Coditions like this
Deduct able tax:-
JMOP - IN BED Settoff %
JEC1 - A/P Edu. Cess Settoff
JSEP - IN A/P H Ecess Setoff
JVRD - A/P VAT RM Deductable
Also maintain its settoff 100% for all the condition Type.
JMX1 -- IN: A/P BED setoff
JEX1 --- Ecess Setoff Sta
JHX1 IN: A/P SECess SOTot
Now for Non-deductable Tax(Inventrised) suppose ur Tax Code B
B should have condition Like this
JMIP - IN BED
JEC2 - A/P ECESS
JSEI - H Ecss
JVRN - Vat
Now in SPRO --> Logistic General --> Tax on Goods Movements --> Basic Settings --> Determine of Excise Duty ---> Condition Based Excise Determination -->Assign Tax Code to Caompnay Code.
Here give the Tax Code that CENVAT benefit.
Regards,
Pardeep malik -
Condition record not determined in PO for Taxes
HI All,
I have maintained the necessary condition type in ZTAXIN (Copy of TAXINN) Procedure for Surcharge which is calculating on VAT 12.5% for Haryana State. System is not calculating for this condition type but system is calculating Taxes for other condition types.
I have checked in FV12 also, records are exists. I have also checked in Tax condition type it is also showing the records for access.
When i am checking analysis for Tax Procedure for Surcharge condition it is showing error as - "Condition record exists (Manually removed)".
Kindly help me to resolve this issue.
Thanks in advance.
Sure points will be awarded.
Regards,
Neeraj SainiIf u are using copy of TAXINN , u need to classify condition types. The condition type u r using for VAT shud be classified as combination of tax procedure and condition classification
following is the path to the setting
Logistics - General >>>>>Tax on Goods Movements>>>>>India>>>>>Basic Settings>>>>>>Determination of Excise Duty >>>>>>Condition-Based Excise Determination >>>>>>Classify Condition Types
enter ur tax procedure .. vat condition type ... and vat tax classification.
hope it help.
regards
Avinash -
Maintain Excise defaults for pricing condition in TAXINN procedure
Hi all,
I post this message as I'm customizing CIN part for creation and calculation of excise invoice. I have read lot of post but i'm a bit confused about right procedure to adopt. I try to explain:
I'm doing a stardard sales flow (sales order -> delivery -> commercial invoice -> excise invoice) and the only method I have found to flow excise values in excise invoice is to insert pricing conditions in India -> Basic settings -> Determination of excise duty -> Maintain excise defaults for TAXINN procedure.
In this table I have insert pricing conditions I use in my SD pricing schemas (in this case I use a copy of JINFAC). I have insert pricing conditions corresponding to BED % and BED total, and also CESS % and total and S&HCESS % and total.
If I remove pricing condition from this table, corresponing value in excise invoice, when I create it, become 0.
My dubt is if is correct to populate with table to flow excise values in excise invoice. I ask it as I have read differents approach and differents customizing settings applied in similar situations. In particular, I have found documentation in which, for TAXINN procedure, is recommended to leave blank "excise defaults" (with exception of CVD condition). What is the right method to use?
There is one right procedure or, as it seems reading posts, someone have to do his "proper CIN customizing" based on results that have to obtain?
Thanks in advance for any contribute that can help to clarify this situation.
Regards
GianpaoloHi all,
I think to have found solution to my dubt.
If I use "condition based Excise determination" I have to insert records with pricing schema (if is a copy of standard J* schema, like ZINFAC that is a copy of JINFAC) and excise pricing conditions in the transaction below:
India -> Basic settings -> Determination of excise duty -> Condition-based Excise determination -> Classify condition type
To determine value in excise invoice seems that program check before table in transaction described before. If in this table don't find records for pricing schema-excise pricing condition the program check also table in transaction below:
India -> Basic settings -> Determination of excise duty -> Maintain excise defaults
If during this second check find excise pricing conditions insert, can determine equally the values of excise in excise invoice.
This is the result of my checks. I hope this could be useful for other people with similar problem. -
BED value is not captured in the outgoing excise invoice
Dear Friends,
I have created a sales order consisting of BED,ECESS, SECEE duties in the sales order , delivered and created invoice and then raised excise invoice with the referance to invoice. Here BED is not captured in the excise invoice.
I will let you all know what is my analysis regarding this issue.
1. I have checked the " maintain excise defaults" settings. i have checked the BED condition type(JEXP) is available under A/R BED cond or not. Then in trial error methode inputed diff places and checked.
2.condition records are maintained properly.
Please let me know as soon as possible, if any other configuration part/settings to be maintained because my client is go living on next week.
Regards
MohanHiii
Check the followings..
1. Wheather you have maintain the condition type JEXT as 100% with condition record or not.
2. Check you have maintain the condition type JEXT under, Logistic General -> Tax on Goods movement----> India -
> Basic Setting -
> Determination of Excise Duty -
> Condition based Excise Determination -
> Classify Condition type
check here condition type JEXT is maintain with your pricing procedure or not.
Hope it will solve your problem.
Regards
Shambhu Sarkar -
Dear Guru's
Please find my query mentioned below.......
QUERY:
We are using Taxinn as a procedure
Scenario: Same vendor same material same plant
I want to create 2 Seperate PO
1) With Zero Excise duty
2) With 16 % Excise Duty
How to Solve this Query?
Waiting for immediate response
Regards
Shailesh
[email protected]Hi Shailesh,
First of all you create a tax code in FTXP for zero tax code say V0 then save it.Maintain this tax code to your company code in
IMG --> Logistic General --> Tax on goods movement --> India --> Basic settings --> Determination of excise duty --> Condition based excise determination --> Assign tax codes to company code
Then in FV11 maintain your tax condition with 0 value only.
Second question
Same manner you create another tax code say V1 with excise duty 16% and assign it to your company code.
Then in FV11 maintain tax rates with respective condition types used for excise duty and education cess.
This way you can maintain tax codes
Regards
Vivek
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