EXCISE SUBCONTRACTING CHALLAN REVERSAL
Hi!
we are using TAXINN in ECC5.0. we are creating subcontracting challan after maintianing assessable value and excise rates 16% BED, 2% ECS and 1% SEC ECS for the chapter id. When we are trying to reverse the subcontracting challan, the duty values are not calculated in the challan. we have also maintained excise indicator for the vendor and also excise details.
Can anybody help us out?
Thanking you in advance
Ganesh
Hi,
against which document you are reversing it 541 0r 542 material document check following link
[Subcontract Challan;
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/ru/1c/d6a1d82b5611d4ae1700105a16d13d/content.htm]
Regards
kailas Ugale
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The process is like
SUB-CONTRACTING CONDITION RECORDS - FV11 for service tax and cess
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INVOICE VERIFICATION - MIRO
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/09/ebf138cdd78a4be10000000a114084/frameset.htm -
Excise Duties in subcontracting challan
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I am creating subcontracting challan57f4 in ref to material transfer document.MY query is, should duties also appear while creating subcontracting challan i my case this is not happening.
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The excise duties should not appear in the Sub-Contracting challan. Because, you are creating the excise challan for sending the excisable material outside to your sub-contractor for processing without payment of duties. Hence it is the right thing that excise duties are not appearing in your challan.
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First ensure following;
Configuration: -
- Go to SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Account Determination > Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction > Here maintain as following;
ETT Subtrn Typ DC ind Acct name
57FC CR PLABED
57FC CR RG23BED
57FC CR RG23ECS
57FC DR CLEAR
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57FC 01 CR RG23AT1
57FC 01 CR RG23BED
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57FC 01 DR CLEAR
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Apart from above also do following configuration for Subcontracting;
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Excise Group XX
Excise TT 57FC
Subtransaction Type 01
Subtran Type Text 57FC CHALLAN
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Rate-subcontracting
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Mvt Grp Receipt 0002
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No. range no. 01
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- SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups
Here maintain following
MVT. Grp. MvT S
0001 101 O
0001 541 O
0002 542
0002 542 O
0002 543 O
- J1I9 - maintain No range for object "J_1I57FC" for series group
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Subcontracting without Payment of Duty
- Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
- Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
- Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
- Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and autoconsumption of components with 543 movement}
- Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
- Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
- Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Master Data
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- CS01 - BOM for FG
- ME11 - Purchase Inforecord for Subcontracting -
No accounting documents generated while reversing the subcontract challan
Dear Friends,
Could any of you pls clarify the following process.
__Reversal & Recredit of subcontracting challan.__
Step1- Created sc po
Step2- Did 541 (mb1b)
Step3- Created sc challan (J1IF01)
Step4- Did the GR (Partial)
Step5- Partial reconciliatin of challan (J1IFQ)
When the rest of the finished products arrives , the challan exceeds 180 days.
Now I have to reverse the challan & then have to reconcile the challan.
After I have to take recredit & complete the challan.
But the problem is there is no accounting document is generated after reversing the challan although the status of the challan is showing reversed. In J1IF13 the reversal base value is picked from the J1ID assessable value for the component. But the Reversal BED,Reversal ECS,Reversal TAX1 fields are blank.
R PandaHello,
You create subcontracting challan so that you do not pay any duties when you send the components to the vendor ( Subcontractor ). So whn you cancel or reconcile ther will be no accounting entry. Material should come back within 180 days of time frame.
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Shailesh -
Reversal of subcontracting challan not taking place
Sirs,
I am having problems in cancelling a subcontracting challan. The error that i am getting is that the challan is in status C. Any links on Subcontracting cycle with CIN.
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Process for Subcontracting in CIN
SUB-CONTRACTING CONDITION RECORDS - FV11 for service tax and cess
SUB-CONTRACTING CONDITION RECORDS - ME21N
RELEASE STRATERGY FOR PURCHASE ORDER - ME28
TRANSFER POSTING OF CHILD PARTS TO SUB-CONTRACTOR - MB1B 541 Mvt Type
SUBCONTRACTING CHALLAN - J1ILN
GOODS RECIEPT - MIGO
RECONCILING SUBCONTRACTING CHALLAN - J1IFQ
INVOICE VERIFICATION - MIRO
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Any suggestion in this regard is very helpful.
durga
[email protected]Hi,
You are referring the material challan, which is not posted for Sub-Contracting PO. Pl. check your Material document number. Also pl. check that plant is same in material document & s/c Challan.
Excise values are not appearing in the S/C Excise Challan, because you are sending the excisable material to your sub-contractor without paying any excise duty. When you reverse & recredit the S/C Challan, it will show the Excise Amounts.
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Please suggest me about Subcontracting challan reconcilation & re credit in case material is recieved after 180 days. how challan is handled & regarding credit what needs to be done.
We can reverse challan & reconcile using j1ifq but what steps to be followed in case of paying excise amount.Hi,
follow following steps-
1.TCode-j1if13.-Complete/Reversal/Recredit- Reverse challan.
All duties will get reversed.
2.TCode-j1if13.-Complete/Reversal/Recredit- Recredit challan.
All duties will get recredited.
3.Create GR for the purchase order and provide the reference of Challan created.
4.Reconcile and Complete the Challan
5.Check RG23A part 2 entries for transaction type 57NR and 57RC in table J_1IPart2
6.Extract RG23A Part 2 register and download the entries in excel through J2I6
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***How subcontracting challan is manged in multilevel subcontracting process??
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Here - how the subcontracting challan is managed?? please guide.Hi,
The challan is also widely known as the 57F4 challan, after the law under which it was defined up until the 2000 budget. This law has now been superceded by a new one, 57AC. The challan consists of a header and line items. The header, in addition to T-code is J1IF01 to create subcontracting challan. organizational data, allows you to enter:
Preprinted number
Additional data
Identification marks
Nature of processing
Furthermore, each challan has two numbers, an internal document number and a challan number, which the system assigns to the challan when you save it. From a business perspective, this is the most important number. Each challan also has a status, which shows you what stage in processing it is at.
The line items are copied across from the transfer posting when you create the challan. You can also enter additional data for each item
T-code for completing the challan is J1IF13. You use this function to close a challan completely after all the materials have been accounted for. If a challan's return date has elapsed, and thus your right to the CENVAT credit, you use it to reverse the excise credit u2013 or, should your subcontractor return the goods subsequently, to re credit the excise credit
Reconcillation of challan (J1IFQ): Once a subcontractor has processed your materials and returned them to you, you match the items in the challan against those that have been returned . I hope this will resolve your issue. Thanking you.
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