Failure to completly render timeline in FCP 5

I'm having a problem with FCP 5. The timeline will not completly render. Transitions and text blocks seem to be the problems. After rendering the timeline, most parts of the indicator line are grey showing those parts have been rendered, but in some areas the lines are a very light color. When you try to export, when the export window comes up, these light colored area turn red, and exporting cannot be done.
Does any one have any ideas what's causing this and how to correct it?
Thanks in advance.

I am having a similar problem. I have a project that shows as completely rendered, however, when I go to Export as an MPG 2 (for DVD burning) using Quicktime conversion, alot of red lines pop up and it wont let me export. However, if I choose AVI or another setting (the red lines still pop up) it will start exporting, and the red lines go away. Any suggestions? I am using 5.03.

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http://www.robinsonhope.com/downloads/makeup_animationtest.zip
Here is a link to view screenshots before and after to show you what rendering does to the graphics.
http://www.robinsonhope.com/downloads/makeup_ss.jpg
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Welcome to this forum,
Sorry to hear you so struggling with this issue.
And I doubt whether I can solve this for you, but I can say a few things.
The title of this thread is:
Graphics render bug in FCP 6 and 7 - Dare to prove me wrong?
I'll prove you are wrong. Or actually you've already proved yourself wrong in your post:
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Seams that I try to annoy you, but I'm not. It's not a joke. The fact that other applications can't handle it as well AND the fact that Animation Codec (Which is pretty lostless) does not have this problem, tells you that the problem is likely the low compression you want OR the footage itself. And I dare say it's BOTH.
I downloaded your testfile and have opened it in FCP and I can see in the Vectorscope that your color Red is too hot.
[Click here|http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz356/rienkL/Screenshot2010-04-02at1324 20.png] to see the vectorscope of your picture?
You also see the small boxes (clockwise)
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And I'm not claiming that your problem will be solved when you adjust this. It is still possible that h264 just doesn't like red too much. Maybe that's on purpose. Our eyes are most less sensitive to red, so that gives the compressor some extra room to compress in the reds (Don't know if this is what compression developers do; just thinking out loud, just an idea...)
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Hi, <- My casual Greeting
Hopefully there are a few video editors out there on the forum... cause this one is program specific....
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