Fed up with Verizons slow EVERYTHING!

I have had Verizon wireless for a long time. Up until they went to 4g, my service wasn`t too bad. I live so close to a new tower now that I can see it from my rooftop. My service is slower than dialup, when I can stay connected. I have tried 4 different modems on my desktop and laptop running win xp. I`ve called customer service and they run me through all kinds of tests and checks, uninstall and reinstall, system checks, etc. Every time my system is right. This has been going on for over a year. I have even installed external antennas on my roof to help get a signal, 3 different antennas too. I`ll dial up to Verizon internet and have 3-4 bars on top and 3 on the bottom (1x). Then after 2-3 minutes it goes to no bars and disconnects. Then in 1 minute it reconnects with 3-4 bars etc. This has been happening at all times of the day and night with different computers and modems. I live just south of Roanoke,Alabama and they just put in a new tower less than 1/2 mile from my house (as a bird flies). I get no better service since the new tower went up than I did before it went up.  Everytime I call customer support they say there is nothing wrong with their system and there have been no complaints. I HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING!!!!!  Everybody in my area that has Verizon wireless say their service is bad too, but Verizon won`t do anything about it. They even claim I`m in a 3g area!!  I`m fed up with them now. My contract is up in a couple months and I will NOT keep my service with Verizon and will recommend to everybody to NOT waste their money on Verizon.  Then I read where Verizon is laying off thousands of employees because they don`t need them and paying their CEO millions each year...for what?  Verizons service has gone down hill these past few years and I`ve had enough of paying $60 a month to sit and look at a screen than doesn`t go anywhere!! 
Verizon is good at talking the talk but they really drop the ball when it comes to following through.  For $60 a month I`ll go with a sat dish for my internet and have the speed and reliability Verizon promised THEY had when I signed up.
I HIGHLY recommend everybody avoid Verizon wireless.

    Dansimonds, I regret to hear about the issues you've experienced with slow speeds in your area. I do show this as a 3G area, but no 4G towers in the area, so that should not affect you. What device are you using? Have we ever submitted a trouble ticket on this line for you?
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    That took me about 15 minutes. Now lets try other game.
    League of Legends
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    | ffm-bb1-link.telia.net - 0 | 69 | 69 | 148 | 161 | 252 | 159 |
    | ffm-b11-link.telia.net - 0 | 69 | 69 | 150 | 156 | 181 | 158 |
    | internap-ic-138405-ffm-b11.c.telia.net - 0 | 69 | 69 | 149 | 181 | 412 | 169 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    |________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
    WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
    Now this game is not as punishing for higher ping, but it still sucks.
    For the end DotA 2 US East server which is never bad for me as I'm living in New York:
    US East:
    |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
    | WinMTR statistics |
    | Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
    |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
    | Wireless_Broadband_Router.home - 0 | 331 | 331 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
    | L100.NYCMNY-VFTTP-245.verizon-gni.net - 0 | 331 | 331 | 5 | 9 | 118 | 9 |
    | G0-7-4-5.NYCMNY-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net - 0 | 331 | 331 | 8 | 12 | 25 | 11 |
    | ae2-0.NY5030-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net - 0 | 331 | 331 | 7 | 22 | 110 | 11 |
    | 0.xe-11-1-0.BR1.NYC1.ALTER.NET - 0 | 331 | 331 | 9 | 15 | 75 | 41 |
    | ae11.edge2.NewYork.Level3.net - 32 | 147 | 100 | 0 | 12 | 65 | 14 |
    | vlan51.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net - 0 | 331 | 331 | 20 | 23 | 31 | 24 |
    | 4.69.132.89 - 0 | 331 | 331 | 17 | 20 | 24 | 18 |
    | ae-62-62.csw1.Washington1.Level3.net - 0 | 331 | 331 | 17 | 21 | 33 | 22 |
    | ae-1-60.edge2.Washington4.Level3.net - 0 | 331 | 331 | 17 | 24 | 116 | 19 |
    | 4.53.114.114 - 0 | 331 | 331 | 15 | 19 | 55 | 18 |
    | 208.78.167.3 - 0 | 331 | 331 | 16 | 20 | 29 | 20 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    | No response from host - 100 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
    |________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
    WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
    As I've said before I'm not a programmist, but even this from US East looks interesting to me:
    | ae2-0.NY5030-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net - 0 | 331 | 331 | 7 | 22 | 110 | 11 |
    | L100.NYCMNY-VFTTP-245.verizon-gni.net - 0 | 331 | 331 | 5 | 9 | 118 | 9 |

  • My experience with Verizon - Horrible - here's why

    I had been a customer with Verizon Wireless since 2008.  During my time as a customer, service was just ok but I always had service at my home (home office) and at my corporate office.  Two of the most important places I needed service. That was until November of 2013 when service at my home and office was no longer consistent or available at all.  I had an Android phone so I asked my wife what her service was like in both places since she had an i-phone.  She experienced the same service problems.  My wife and I both tried to work with Verizon to resolve the issue.  Verizon's response..."I see our computer shows service in those areas so there should not be a problem."  My wife and I continued to explain to them for 2 months that yes there once was service and then like a switch there was none.  I don't care what the computer says there is NO service.  Verizon would NOT send someone out to verify service despite requesting them to do so.  After 2 months of frustration Verizon offered a solution "you can put a signal booster in your house for an additional $40 a month."  I did NOT want to pay extra money to restore service where I once had it.  This was a change in service on Verizon's end which created a hardship in me doing business so after two months we came to an agreement that we may cancel our contract and would not be charged for the remaining 4 months.  My wife and I canceled our service and went with another provider.  Following the cancellation we received a letter in the mail stating that we owed early termination fees!  I called Verizon stating that I was assured that I would NOT be charged these fees.  Verizon reassured me that was the case and that we needed to wait for the official bill before they could offer the credits.  Our bill came...I called Verizon regarding the credits...they flat out LIED and said we do not have any record showing we were going to offer you credits.  It has been a constant battle since then and they have now sent my bill to collections.  Fed up with dealing with this almost a year later and trying to repair the damage Verizon has done to my credit score I agreed to pay the bill with a "pay for delete option".  Verizon's refused.  The collection agency then sends me a letter for a settlement offer of 65% of the amount owed. Before scheduling the payment I called Verizon to ensure that if I accept this offer that they would report that the account was "paid in full".  Verizon said YES they would report the account as paid in full.  I called back and schedule the payment for 1 week out.  I DO NOT trust Verizon due to the flat out lies and deceptive way they handled my cancellation so the week gave me a chance to get the "paid in full" reporting status in writing. Once I requested this Verizon back peddled AGAIN and said they would not send the letter and when I pressed the issue they stated that the account would be reported as "settled for less then amount owed".  This is VERY different in the eyes of future lenders so canceled my scheduled payment.  Verizon CAN NOT BE TRUSTED for anything that they say. They will LIE and delete notes on your account to get things their way.  If you choose to (or have to) do business with Verizon get EVERYTHING in writing.     I STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH VERIZON!  THEY ARE THE WORST COMPANY I HAVE EVER DEALT WITH.

    I could not have said it any better VERIZON WILL LIE WITHOUT RESERVATION. THEY ALTERED RECORDS IN CONNECTION TO AN ISSUE I HAD WITH THEM, THEY LIED REPEATEDLY, I KNOW THEY HAVE FLAGGED ME AS A 'PROBLEM CUSTOMER' AND WHEN I CALL THEY ADJUST THEIR TREATMENT OF ME ACCORDINGLY. CALLS MYSTERIOUSLY DROP WHEN TALKING TO REPS, THEY MAKE ME HOLD FOR EXTENDED PERIODS HOPING I WILL HANG UP. NO OTHER COMPANY I HAVE DEALT WITH LIES AS OFTEN OR IN AS MANY WAYS AS THIS COMPANY. THEIR INSOLENCE ONLY HARDENS MY RESOLVE, IF ONLY OTHERS WERE PERSISTENT BEEDS TO CALL UT ALAS. SOMEONE SOMEWHERE NEEDS TO CALL THEM ON IT ONCE IN AWHILE.

  • Fed up with the terrible customer service.

    I'm so fed up with Verizon's terrible customer service. My DVR started going out last week. I figured that now would be a good time to get the new 500gb DVR that all of the new customers get to have. After several long calls with "customer service" they said that I could pick one up from the local store (which is a 30 minute drive). So after calling in the morning to make sure that the boxes were in stock, I went down there. They refused to give me the newer 500gb DVR, instead giving me a 120gb DVR.
    When I got home, I called customer service again three more times. The third time, the customer service agent put in an order for a new DVR, promising me that  I would receive the 500gb box. Guess which DVR they sent me? The 120gb DVR!
    Again, I called customer service, got hung up on, called back again and was unable to speak to a supervisor. They also claim that they have no control over which DVR they can send. That's so ridiculous.  
    I've had it. I pay waaaaaay to much and have been a loyal customer for over 4 years. I don't even get the 25/25 internet speed that I'm paying for. As soon as my contract is up I'm switching to Time Warner or AT&T. I know their customer service is much better, and at least I'll be able to use a faster wireless router.  
    Good Bye Verizon. You're way too expensive for how you treat your customers.
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    October 2011
    Wanted to add another set top box for a 3rd TV.  So I called customer service and had them send me one instead of going to the FiOS store which in my area, which uses 2 gallons of gas round trip.  I asked for the newer black colored box which is lighter and uses less energy.  2 days later, the package shows up at my door and low and behold, they sent the old large box instead. Surprised?  So I called the local FiOS store in Spring Valley, NY since I couldn't get through to customer service on the phone that morning (perhaps because it was the day before hurricane Irene struck the NY area) and was told to just bring it up there. I wound up spending FOUR HOURS in the store as I was told they couldn't switch it out because it wasn't plugged in and activated!  They made calls to different departments in an effort to straighten this out, but to no avail.  I wanted to take the box and smash it on the floor in front of them!  Unless I miss my guest, ALL cable boxes are tracked by their serial #, so why was there a problem? Because of a colossal design FLAW in the Verizon FiOS computer system that requires you to plug in & activate a box BEFORE you exchange or return it.  Have you ever heard of anything so stupid in your life?  So I took the old box home, took apart that part of the wall unit, replaced the existing HD setop box with the wrong one they sent, activated it, put the wall unit back together, took the box I've had for 4 years back, got the new design one, bought it home, installed it, and low and behold, THERE'S NO CLOCK DISPLAY!  The excuse customer service is giving out for this one is that alleviation of the clock display makes the box use less energy.  Just who does this company think they're BSing?   I was in the digital clock biz back when digital displays first came out in the 1970's.  These vacuum florescent types use barely any power at all to speak of compared to what the box consumes overall.  They know the average consumer doesn't have the technical background I have to know better.  Just another excuse so Verizon could save a buck or 2 on each box they buy from Motorola, As Porky Pig would say, "BADEE BADA BEDED THAT'S ALL FOLKS!"

  • I am having problems with my burst mode on my iphone 6 plus it is slower than  the facetime camera after i updated to ios 8.3 apple please fix this issue i am fed up with all your mistakes

    i am having problems with my burst mode on my iphone 6 plus it is slower than  the facetime camera after i updated to ios 8.3 apple please fix this issue i am fed up with all your mistakes

    Gerald
    If you had taken time to read the Terms of Use you agreed on joining this Community today you would have realised that Apple is not here
    neither reading nor responding on this User Community
    http://www.apple.com/feedback/

  • Does the ipad run faster/slower with verizon 4g or 4g wifi without the verizon 4g option

    I'm looking at purchasing my first iPad and I'm not sure if it's worth spending the extra money to get the wifi and wireless or would it be just as fast to get the wifi version and use my 4g mifi card from Verizon?

    What will you use the 4g for? Do you travel often for work, go to very remote places? Why do you have mifi? Do you use your mifi with your phone on a regular basis? Can you use it for your phone and ipad? And don't you pay for mifi on a monthly basis even if you rarely use it? With 4g, you pay on a monthly basis so you might only need to do that a few times a year during the months you use it. I would call Verizon and find out. And I'm sure you're aware that they're always trying to sell you on spending more money so be careful how you word your questions.
    I quickly googled the mifi question and saw this article. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/why-i-ordered-a-wi-fi-only-ipad/12470. Please read the comments to the article, too. Some agreed with the writer, while others had very different opinions. If you google your question, you'll get many opinions from professional tech people, users, and former users of 3g and 4g. This might help you make a decision.
    We got our first ipad, (64gb ipad 2 wi-fi only) for my husband in June and one of my sons got the same today. Both are refurbs from the Apple online store. They come with brand new outer shell, brand new battery, and full one year warranty (other places that sell refurbs probably do not refresh their refurbs as Apple does, so if you go refurb, use the Apple online store. They're great! We saved a lot of money, even with the 64gb. (I know people love their new ipads, but this way we didn't have to deal with the possible overheating, yellow hue on screens, etc. We did not get 3g because if we are somewhere and need 3g, we all have phones that we can use. And though we won't get Siri on ipad 2 when it comes out, we don't care about it - just enjoying the freedom of 64gb, etc.
    So, I suggest you evaluate your needs, check with Verizon, and google your questions. I'm sure you'll make the decision that is best for you!
    At any rate, enjoy your first ipad! We think you'll love it!
    Message was edited by: appleuser1322
    Forgot to tell you -- to answer your question - I have no idea if the ipad runs faster or slower with or without 4g! (Verizon would probably tell you faster because they'll make more money, so I suggest you also google that.)
    Hope this helps!

  • How to file a Complaint with Verizon

    I don’t know how to file a complaint with, or about, Verizon customer service.  After calling Verizon I was shuffled between departments, supervisors, and finally directed to “verizon.com/contactus”.  After spending an hour browsing the “contact us” section of the website, it became abundantly clear that I would not be able to find what I was looking for on the website. 
    A month ago I was in the middle of the moving process and was dreading the seemingly inevitable process of setting up the internet/television/phone, a process that I had to do many times before.  My son had informed me of Verizon’s transfer service, also known as “Moving with Verizon”.  As we were only moving 3 miles down the road, I figured that I would visit my local Verizon store as this would continue to be the store I turn to if I chose to stay with Verizon.  I had several concerns that I wanted to have addressed, chief among them were:
    - I have built up a significant number of movie titles in my digital library.  If I stay with Verizon, will I be able to keep the movies that I had purchased? 
    - Each time I move I am inconvenienced with having to distribute my new phone number to my friends and family.   Will I be able to keep my current phone number if I stay with Verizon?
    - When I first started with Verizon I had significantly less credit with Video on Demand than I do now.  If I stay with Verizon, will I have to go through the grueling process of building up my credit again?
    The sales associate was very kind and willing to help.  I was assured that
    -          I should be able to retain my purchases with Video On Demand
    -          I can bring my phone number from my previous address
    -          My Video on Demand credit could possibly be reset after the transfer, but a single phone call to customer service could set my credit back to normal with minimal effort
    Throughout my questioning I was assured that my current services would transfer uninterrupted by the time of the move.  As you could imagine I was ecstatic.  We scheduled a technician to show up to the new house, when I asked the representative on the phone “What should I do with my current cable boxes and internet router while I wait for the technician?”  I was told that the technician would handle it. 
    The technician arrived two weeks ago, we were given a box and instructed to package the previous equipment and drop it off at our local Verizon store.  The technician gave us our new number, when we asked him about our previous number he appeared to not know what we were talking about.   He was apologetic about the mix up and gave us a phone number that we could contact.  Shortly after the technician left, my family noticed that our digital library was completely empty.  The next day I went back to the Verizon store, was apologized to, and then instructed to only place one order in at a time, because multiple orders on a single account tend to slow each other down.  We decided to resolve the issues one at a time starting with the phone.
    My wife called and was told to wait a day or two.  After waiting two days, my wife informed me that she was bounced between different departments over the course of several days, but was assured that the issue was resolved.  I told my wife that I would handle the future endeavors with Verizon as she appeared to be a little flustered by the experience.  I later received a courtesy call from Verizon confirming that our phone number was restored.  I asked the lady whom I was talking to whether she could help me with my VoD service or transfer me to someone who could.  She assured me that she could help and asked me whether or not we had received new set-top boxes for our televisions. After I informed her of the new boxes, she apologized to me and informed me that due to copyright infringement laws that our digital library was lost and that we could not receive any kind of compensation.  I decided to call customer service, and after talking to representative for almost half an hour I was placed on hold and then told that there was nothing that could be done at this time and that I was going to be disconnected, before I could respond I was hung up on.
    Three nights ago I took my concern back to the Verizon store as I dropped off our previous equipment.  I was given several new phone numbers.  That evening I spent over 2 ½ hours on hold waiting for a representative.  After explaining my situation I was transferred to another representative who worked with me and put in a work order to have our digital library restored.  I was quoted 48 hours, but the issue was resolved that evening. 
    Not intending to cause any more issues with Verizon until our digital library issue was resolved, my family abstained from renting or purchasing any movies from Video on Demand.  I had promised my son and grandson that if the movies were restored, I would add the new Star Trek movie to our library so that we could watch it together. I was slightly irked to realize that when I tried to add a new title to my library an error message would pop up.  I called the number on the message and entered the error code.  I was placed on hold for almost an hour.  When I finally reached a representative, he informed me that the problem was that my credit had been reset during the move and the issue could only be resolved by another department which had just closed for the evening.  I decided to work at home the next day so that I could watch the movie when my son came home that evening.  The next morning I called and realized that the opening time quoted to me was obviously in a different time zone.  When I finally reached an agent, 2 hours later, I was told that I was 5 dollars over my credit limit.  I informed the representative of my situation, as proof I pointed to the fact that the bill that I had paid earlier this week was almost 200 dollars more than my current statement.  I was asked to wait 30 minutes and to call back if the issue hadn’t resolved itself within an hour.  An hour later I called, explained my situation to another representative, and was told to call back in an hour if the problem hadn’t resolved itself.  An hour later I called and after being sent to several different representatives I was asked to call back in an hour if the issue hadn’t resolved itself.
    Meanwhile my wife was contacted at worked by Verizon, informing her that there was no record of us returning the equipment and that we could be facing additional charges if we did not straighten out the issue.  After spending the next several hours assuring my wife and showing her how on the receipt, each piece of equipment was clearly scanned and entered into the system, I decided to call customer service again as my VoD was still displaying the same error message.  I was apologized to yet again, and was told that my order was being slowed down due to a high number of unresolved issues on our account.  I was assured that he would clear out the mess and that we should be able to order movies that evening, if not I should call back in 24 hours.  I apologized to my son and grandson yesterday evening, both of them took it surprisingly well.  This evening I waited until 7:30 to contact customer service (31 hours after I was told to wait 24 hours), I was placed on hold again and again for over an hour and a half.  I finally was told that my account would be cleared out to resolve the issue, I informed the gentleman that I was already told that would be done and then referenced the ticket number that I had received (and double-checked) from the gentleman the day before.  After speaking to his supervisor about the issue I was informed that there was no record of this action nor was there any ticket number matching the one I had given him.  The gentleman tried to help me for several more minutes until he transferred me to another department because neither he nor his supervisors could understand why my account wasn’t letting him change the date on my ticket, as he had reset all my resolved issues. 
    I explained my situation to the representative who after reviewing my account information informed me that I could have had the issue resolved on the 29th of August but someone during my process removed my order.  She then informed me that due to the number of unresolved orders on my account the system could not let her schedule a credit increase until the 26th of September.  After repeatedly asking her what I could do to expedite this process, I came to realize that all she could do was repeat to me the information that she had already said.  I then asked her who I could talk to resolve this issue or file a complaint.  After rambling for several minutes I was then transferred to the billing department.  After explaining my situation, yet again, to another representative, my account was reviewed again, and I was once again informed that I was over my credit limit.  After going into details a little more intimately, I was assured that the earliest that I could receive the credit increase was the 26th of September, and that I should make another payment.  I informed her that I had just paid over $550 dollars on my last bill and had given up the majority of my free time over the last 2 weeks trying to resolve issues that I was assured wouldn’t be a problem by a Verizon representative.   I asked if I could receive a small credit to my account ($30) so that I could just watch the movie and feel like I received a small victory for sacrificing so much of my time.  She informed me that only her supervisor could make that call.  She informed me that I would have to wait around 15 minutes on hold (what’s 15 minutes when I’ve already waited 8+ hours on hold?).  After explaining my situation to Cornell he reviewed my account and then reworded what I had just told him.  He informed me that the department that deals with my issue (the department that just transferred me to billing) was now closed and that I would have to wait until Tuesday (4 days) to have my issue resolved.  After explaining the fruitlessness of dealing with that exact department with the exact information he was trying to send me off with, he placed me on hold for several minutes and then came back and agreed to only meet me half way, a $15 dollar credit.  I was extremely offended.  This is not even 3% of my average bill.  $15 for 2 weeks of unsatisfactory service, in addition to 12+ hours of my personal time in addition to my wife’s time and visiting the Verizon store.  After explaining to Cornell that $15 was less than satisfactory, I asked for an email address or a complaint line.  He agreed with me that it was frustrating and explained to me that it was getting late for his department “almost 11:40 in the evening”, the exact time where I am.  He gave me Verizon.com/contactus, which after reviewing the page, I became insulted.  I have continually followed up with my phone calls and stayed loyal to Verizon, following the instructions of each representative that I have talked to in the last several days.
    Verizon has provided both my family and me with an excellent entertainment package as well as outstanding customer service in the past.  I would like to believe that despite the fact that I was lied to by both a sales representative and a supervisor that my family’s experience over that last few weeks with Verizon is not a common one.  I am more than willing to place this movie order on my next bill, all I ask is that you please help me to enjoy the advertised early release and to enjoy the services I previously had with your company.

    We've been having problem with our Verizon Fios set up since the moment we moved in to our new place. We've had several technicians come through, and then eventualy aftet two weeks of setting up appoitments and calling the customer service folks, they were finally able to resolve the issue. However, the nightmare doesn't end here. Last week, our neighbors switched over to Verizon Fios, and their technician swtiched our cables with theirs ( what a sloppy, lazy, job) meaning that they unplugged everything that was running to our apartments and transferred over to their becuase they didn't want to put in the extra work to chech and make sure that everyone was getting service. After, we had noticed the problem, my husband called  customer service to put in a ticket for the technician to come through and resolve the issue. The ticket was made for Wednesday, Nov 7th, 2013  under ticket number {edited for privacy}, the rep had clealry stated that a technician will come anytime from 3 - 7, which meant that one of us had to be home. My husband took off work and waited for the technician to come through, however, NOBODY showed up. Instead, they told us that they were came at 5 oclock but nobody was home. The same day we called customer service again, and reschudeled to the next day. Thankfully, someone showed up at literally 7pm, meanwhile my husband was waiting at home since 3pm. After hounding them down and calling every hour to make sure that they would show up. Sure enough, they coudn't fix the wiring with out a bucket truck, which the technician mentioned he didn't have since it was already late in the game and eveything was closed. So again, my husband called to make another appoitment, for Saturday, November 9th, 2013, and again, the customer service people  confirmed that someone will show up on this day from 8am-12pm. Guess what!? NOONE came, because NOONE issued a ticket, meanwhile we knew for a FACT that we made an appoitment. It's been one week, and no end to this problem. I am appalled, that a multibillion dollar company such as Verizon has such poor customer service in this area. It is sickening and sad, that noone can come and fix a small issue such as this. I hope that this will be resolved tomorrow, ( as they confirmed that they will come on Sunday) if not we have no other choice but to cancel our services and switch to something else. If only Google fiber was in town, things would have been so much easier, and not OVERPAID, especially now with the CRAPPY service we've been getting. 

  • Fed up with resetting my BT Home Hub 3 and it's so...

    I keep having to reset my BT Home Hub 3 because of problems with wireless connections.
    The Hub is close to all the equipment.
    I have lots of things connected to it:
    -          iPhones - Slow not much better that 3G
    -          Blackberrys
    -          Macbook - Very fast
    -          2 Dell Laptops - Slow
    -          New model Panasonic TV – Viera ST50 Series – Has Wireless inbuilt – New this year - Slow + buffering problems
    -          Sky Box connected via Netgear WN2000RPT Wifi Range Extender - Slow + buffering problems
    -          Hard wired PC - Very fast
    All worked fine with my old Netgear Router (before I changed to BT).
    When I first had this Hub (it’s my 2nd) all was OK for a couple of weeks.
    After a while (usually a few days after resetting BT Home Hub) the older Dell Laptop will keep losing its connection.   Once the problem starts the laptop might last for 5 or 10 minute intervals, lose connection and then automatically reconnect, etc, etc.
    I'm will to accept that the Laptop is old, but when the Laptop is playing up the TV plays up too.    The Internet on the TV’s also fails.
    The answer is to reboot the BT Home Hub.   The Laptop and TV are then both OK (for a few days).
    I’m getting fed up with resetting the Hub.   Especially as it has dropped out while watching online TV.
    All the other devices appear OK (maybe slow but remain connected).   Only the older laptop and the TV actually lose connection.   But resetting the BT Hub fixes the problem for a few days.   So the hub is at fault.
    Recently I’ve been getting other problems.   Now whenever I need to reset the BT Home Hub I need to disconnect the Netgear WN2000RPT.   If I don’t  disconnect the Netgear the BT Home Hub appears to start up and connect OK and everything appears to connect to the Hub OK.  But then none of the Internet content works.   Websites don’t work, TV reports no content.
    Now whenever I reset the BT Home Hub I must first turn off the Netgear WN2000RPT.   Previously this never used to be a problem.
    In case compatibility with the Netgear WN2000RPT is an issue I now usually leave it unplugged.   I only turn it on for Internet content from Sky.
    But the problems described above continue even when Netgear WN2000RPT is turned off.
    When playing up the Laptop sometimes shows “Unsecure Connection”.  I wonder if it’s picked up the BT FON connection (but it shows the normal connection).    I suspect the start of the problems may have coincided with the activation of BT FON on the box (could this have taken 2 weeks?).   I’m sure that it was BT FON that completely broke my first BT Home Hub 3, we had had it about a week, then wifi would not connect from anything, after hours on the phone to BT support we could not establish a wireless connection to the Hub, but strangely all was OK on the FON connection.
    We have BT Infinity.
    Hub is generally slow.   Wired Internet is lightning fast.   New Macbook (using Chrome) via wifi is lightning fast.   Everything else disappointingly slow.   TV and Sky both have buffering issues.
    Any ideas?
    Solved!
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    Ludite60
    The HH3 has the ability to hop around the various Wireless Channels (of which there are 14, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels for indepth info) to enable the hub to pick the best channel for you, taking into account any cordless phones, mobile phones, microwaves etc, all of which could interfere with your wireless signal.
    By reseting you HH3 you are forcing it back to its factory default channel (Channel 7 I guess).  Over a period of days, the HH3 may decide that its default channel isn't the most appropriate and select another channel based on what interference it 'sees'- clearly if it gets this wrong (as my HH3 did) then you potentially get wireless reception issues.
    Consequently, I decided to manually find out what the best channel was by install a wireless scanner (free @ http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/), then:
    1.  Manually change the HH3 Channel (via its settings)
    2.  Check the wireless reception 'power' using inSSider installed on the laptop around your house, ie next to your TV etc.
    3.  When you find the channel that gives you the best wireless reception, tell the HH3 to remain on that Channel by disabling the 'Smart Wireless' feature (there's some info on this @ http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/322​36/~/how-do-i-change-the-wireless-channel-on-my-bt​...)
    As I say, my HH3's range was useless until I forced it to stick to a set Channel, now I have reliable coverage all around the house.  Hope this is some help.

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    I have worked this issue TO DEATH already and am getting FED UP!
    I have been polite and nice and called customer support to get very short and not very explicit answers to this issue.  
    Complaint #1: When I call technical support and ask questions more complicated than " How do I plug in my computer?" they inform they are transferring me to TECHNICAL support.  Okay so who did I call in the first place if not tech support.
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    For those of you not familiar with the program just wiki it.  I have been told by NUMEROUS customer support reps that this program is not being blocked so this is the list of things I went through to make sure it was indeed NOT me or my computer.
    Step 1: System restored before most recent updates to the last date that it was working.
    NO GO
    Step 2: Disabled firewall and virus software temporarily and even turned down my security on my browser
    NO GO
    Step 3: Re updated my computer and updated my firmware on my MIFI2200 card. 
    No go
    Step 4-7 Called customer Support
    NOPE.
    Still waiting.  I am paying for a service that is not providing.  My entire family was with Alltel and is now with Sprint.  I just keep asking myself why am I still with Verizon when all we ever do is fight.  I hate to admit it to the kids but I think it's time for a divorce from you if we can't get this issue resolved.  Before upgrading to these devices I even asked store reps if irc programs would work and they assured me " OH YES!  With these new upgrades things will be better than ever!" 
    I realize to some this seems like not a very big deal, but when I am paying for a service so that I can come home relax, maybe take a few art commisions while chatting on irc and all the sudden I either can't use it or can use it when I couldn't before it's amazingly frustrating.  I have taken my computer over to other people's houses to see if turning my security all the way back up as well as my firewall made a difference, but on any provider OTHER than verizon I can connect just fine.
    Tell me WHY Verizon.  Tell me why you either can't fix this.. or won't fix this.
    Security issues?  That's my problem.  If I want to connect to a DNS server based program that connects via different ports.. that should be MY decision.  You should NOT get to make that choice for me.  
    It's amazing I went to the customer support for IRC and they told me that Verizon doesn't allow you to use IRC.  I have checked NUMEROUS boards and discussion forums only to have them tell me that VERIZON does NOT allow you to use IRC.   However when I talk to Verizon they say " No it must be you.. "  Well I am not taking that excuse anymore.  I've done my share of work on this problem.  Now it's your turn.  Sorry to be rude.. but I paid for the mIRC program, and take artwork commisions over it as well.  I probably pay more for verizon's service than I would with sprint (so says the rest of the family).  
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    Thanks for any help. 

    I choose option 3.  The moment I talk to them about anything more complicated than the bare basics of getting connected they tell me they will transfer me to " tech support."  Very frustrating lol.  I always wonder who I was on the phone with prior to that because it says Tech support but clearly there must be different levels of their support lines.  Sometimes I get someone who will talk and work with me, but generally I get someone who says " Okay I have down your issue and I'll pass it along.."  then they hang up.  However I have been transferred twice in one sitting from "tech support" to Tech support.  So I dunno.  I think they don't have an answer and so they run me in circles.

  • My misadventures with Verizon FIOS

    FIOS recently became available to my building, a 125 apartment condo.  A salesperson,{edited for privacy}and an accomplice, came to sign up new accounts and they had a field day.  The only competition is Comcast and residents were eager to be free of their evil clutches.  [management won't allow satellite, probably illegal.]  The lobby was crowded with potential customers and I asked Sheridan to call me cuz I didn't have time to wait.  
    He called from his car phone and signed me up on his drive home!  I told him my needs:  least expensive and no frills TV to be used with TiVO (requiring a cable card) and fast internet, 25mb.  He seemed unhappy that he couldn't sell me more but I knew what I wanted.  He said he'd sign me up for the Spanish package, La Complexion, or something like that, because it was the only no frills package.  I told him no hablo espanol, but that seemed to be no problem.  Installation would be the upcoming Saturday.
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    The installer came out the following Saturday even though Sheridan told me there was no way the installation could be done until further notice because there were issues with the wiring.  It's a good thing I was home, well, maybe not.
    Meanwhile, I never got any paperwork or an exact cost, only an estimate.  The installer did a good job and got the job done in 2 hours.  The first sign of a problem was when he asked which phone I wanted to hook up.  Huh?  I didn't ask for phone service.  The installer said he didn't have access to what plan I had, which didn't seem to be an issue.  Next sign of a problem was when I was able to get all the premium channels.  Sheridan seemingly signed me up for a tad more than I asked for.
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    to gsusser: "He called from his car phone and signed me up on his drive home!"
    ----I personally think cell phones are the worst invention.  That scenario that you described is unfortunate.  Personally, I would only sign up for services by calling the business number if I didn't have the time to wait for a rep in the lobby so then that way, everything can be documented instead of having miscommunication on someone's cell phone while that person is driving....just saying.  Driving while speaking on a cell phone is so dangerous.  I just don't think I would go along with signing up for services in that manner.  In a way, it's understandable how everything got messed up given the way this sales person handled it because without a computer system right there for him to document your order and to create a record, it leaves too much room open for a  "he said/she said" scenario and miscommunication about what you really want.  It sounds to me like he was looking to make more sales by any means necessary, probably due to a sales quota that he was trying to meet.  
    At this point, before switching back, you could follow through with having a technician to come look at the problem since you have made it this far.  It's only a suggestion and hopefully you could get a 4 hour time frame instead of an all day appointment for that.
    I'm going to be sending a written complaint soon to Verizon's corporate office about some other issues I have had with their customer service.   

  • Anyone else fed up with the 14 day Policy, I am.  Lets do something about it.

    I posted this in the Motorola forums also and now that I can finally post in the Verizon forums, I’m posting it here too.
    This phone (Droid Bionic) worked perfectly the first 14 days accept for one glitch where it toggled to 3G while in the same place and I called into Verizon and they said to take out the battery and SIM card and restart it and it seemed to work fine for the next few days, until the 15th day, past the return point.  I wonder, do these companies try to stall us past the 14th return policy so they can lock us into new contracts and equipment?
    Now after the 14th day the phone toggles from 3-4G all the time no matter where I am and disconnects me from the internet with I get an email notification.  I call Verizon on the 16th day and they give me the canned rhetoric about the 14 day policy and that they will send me a replacement BUT can’t guarantee that it will be new, more likely it will be refurbished. WHAT THE ****.  I just paid for a NEW phone not a used one and within 30 days they want to send me a used one…NO WAY IN HELL is that acceptable.  The car lemon laws are better…you get a new one.
    Well guess what, they tell me that THEY and Motorola are the ones that made these policies…SO, I’m here to ask everyone else that is also fed up with this **bleep** to lobby, boycott, raise hell if you have to, to get these **bleep** policies changed to at least 30 days, like any other product we buy in the USA.
    It’s real interesting that the phone worked fine for 14 days and then it went to crap.  If I want 3G I have the HTC Imagio that worked fine for many years and was still working fine when I got the Droid Bionic, I don’t need a new phone to get 3G.  I think the manufacturer and Verizon are in this together, knowing that their products are built like {word filter avoidance} and won’t last past 14 days, thus the policy.
    After 15 days of gripping to Verizon, they are having me purchase a new Droid Bionic (so I don’t have to get a used one) and will re-start my contract for 2 years, then when I send the crap droid back to them they will credit my account…this is doable, ONLY IF the new phone works. But it is a {word filter avoidance} hassle.  We are the consumer buying YOUR product, we should be treated better.
    According to Verizon, Motorola is coming out with a patch or software upgrade…sometime in Nov. that is supposed to FIX this **bleep** service.
    Well Motorola, if it doesn’t, I’ll be under a new 14 day return policy until the last day of Nov. and if the “Fix” doesn’t work, I’m taking this worthless piece of crap back to Verizon and I’m going back to my 3G HTC.
    You Manufactures need to get it right, OUT OF THE BOX, not have the consumer pay for the product, give them only 14 days and then have them locked into a 2 year contact then you fix the problems.  That’s BULL**bleep**.  And I hope others will join me in lobbying,, call your local TV news channel, boycotting and if we have to, raise hell with all these companies, like you, Verizon and all the other phone service and phone making companies to change the 14 day return policy like Srpint and AT&T...as the Verizon rep stated about thier 14 day policy. 
    If you don’t change your policies, when and IF I buy another product from Verizon, if it glitches even the slightest, instead of calling in for help and getting the stall tactic rhetoric of restarting this and pulling out that to make it work right to stall me past the 14 days, I’ll send the **bleep** thing back 50 times if that what it takes to get a product that works so I don’t get locked into the purchase or the contact if I can’t get something that works.
    I am furious and I’m not going to stop raising hell until you and companies like you start taking better care of consumers like me that spend their money on YOUR products.
    If this next phone I get doesn’t work I’m going back to my HTC 3G.  And I’m not done with you people.  I’m going to do whatever it takes though legal means to see to it that you and companies like you change your **bleep** policies and stall tactics to keep us locked into products that are crap.
    And another note to add: In talking with some of the reps at Verizon, when I ask that an email be sent to me to verify the conversation and I get: “Well we can’t do that”, you are lying.  I did have one of your reps send me an email.  The fact that you won’t tells me that you are trying to keep our conversation off the record so it won’t come back and bit you in the behind later.  Your big company with all its technology can’t send an email…{word filter avoidance}.  Its not going to stop me from waging legal war on you for the crap you put us through.
    This was my 2nd post on the Moto forum:
    I have spoken with someone at Motorola and they invited me to send in my phone to them and then 5-7 business days after they receive it they would send it back fixed or replace it.  However, they would not send me a loaner phone and referred me back to Verizon for that…NOT going to happen.
    We the people made these companies successful and pay them good money for their products; they need to treat us better when it is THERE product that doesn’t work properly.
    I also addressed the update issue with the person from Moto, they couldn’t tell me what issues it will address or when it would be released, only that it’s going to happen sometime in Nov.
    That is why I say this: If it doesn’t work right out of the box and there is 1, even 1 minimal hick up, I’m sending it back 50 times if I have to within the 14 days and I’ll keep doing it until I get one that works or finally get fed up with crappy equipment and go back to my 3G HTC and to hell with Verizon’s contract and Moto’s equipment.
    Also I have learned talking with the person at Moto that it is ONLY Verizon that has set the 14 day policy and has nothing to do with Moto.  Another bit of incorrect info I got from Verizon, and I quote: “We have to abide by the manufactures policies they set and we cannot change the 14 day policy…OK so who’s lying here, Verizon or Moto?
    Doesn’t really matter, we the people need to take action and put a stop to this outrageous **bleep**.  How?  By sending these **bleep** things back the minute they don’t work, within the 14 days unless they change it to longer, like at least 30 days and don't let them stall us with their **bleep** over the phone.
    And two, if we do have a glitch that we have to call in about because the product doesn’t work, the time clock starts over but our contract count down time does not if we have to have it replaced with a NEW product or decide we are fed up with the crappy product and want to cancel it all together and go back to what we had, within the 30 day period AFTER the last glitch we called in about.  If we can get them to change it to 30 instead of 14.
    That will keep them and the manufactures of these products on their toes and stop selling us crap that they later have to fix.  It should work out of the box and if it doesn’t 30 days down the road, there should be no issue in replacing it with a NEW product (NOT a refurbished one) and the countdown times starts again.
    If any of you know some powerful political people, you need to ask them to start writing some new laws about this stuff unless these company’s police their own first and take care of these issues, but because they are making gobs of money off us, I doubt they will, so we have to force the issue and MAKE them do it though laws.
    To add:
    I'm not done with you Verizon.  If this next Bionic doens't work and the update in Nov. does not fix it I'm sending it back and going back to my original HTC and canceling the NEW 2 year contract.  Your CELL server is by far the best, the equipment is not.  And I will not and should not be held to a 2 year contact if you cannot provide me with a product that works.
    You really need to change your policies on your own before we the people make it a law.  Take the initiative and make it right.
    You want to be the best company out there, then don't follow Sprint or AT&T, be your own company and don't tell us on the phone that "All companies are doing that"...are you as lame as all the other companies out there or can you stand on your own and be the best?

    Update:
    The “CS supervisor” at Verizon still cannot arrange for me to take back $100 of worthless accessories if I send the 3G Bionic back…
    So, as the last poster stated, I did cancel my other two lines with Verizon and went to AT&T (I’ll save $400 per year) and canceled my Hot Spot (a saving of $360 per year); A loss to Verizon of $1,236 per year, so I will recoup my expenditures if I send the current 2nd 3G Bionic phone back.  I get 4 bars with AT&T and only 2 with Verizon at my location...hum...imagine that.
    I may just be a little cog in the big wheel but if enough of us did this, and we should, it would get their high and might attention that we customers are not going to let them Lie to us or as the CS super said, “miscommunicate” pertinent information that effects our buying/spending decision and drags us out past the 14 day limit.
    The final word on any update is that there isn’t one anyone can talk about or knows about, but it seems that all the techs at Verizon have the same problem with their droids; they activate the Airplane mode, then deactivate it and the 4G will come back.  That’s all dandy unless when you get disconnected from the internet it closes out important things you were in the process of doing…isn’t that special.  Very lame Verizon, very lame.
    I’ve done a lot of research on Version’s Androids and it appears that ALL of them since they’ve been out have this same problem with the flipping from 4 to 3G and other connectivity issues…so it’s not a MOTO thing unless MOTO has built a problem product…it’s Verizon’s towers or signals etc.  No one has figured it out and neither has Verizon or we wouldn’t have these issues.  
    And the "jargon" I get from Verizon that MOTO is being very “secretive” about the update is laughable...the real reason I believe they say this is because there isn’t one.  Every other company out there in the tech world that knows what the problems are let people know that they are going to release an update and the issues they are working to fix…the “it’s a secret” is a sly way of putting us off because they don’t have any freakin idea what the problem is and how to fix it. 
    I will say that WHEN this Bionic works like it is supposed to, it is awesome.  My biggest issue with this company is there deceitfulness and not telling us the true story up front and their lame 14 day limit...but I understand why that was put in place, their equipment only works for 14 days then takes a dump.  So I doubt they will ever change it back unless they grow a pair and start selling good equipment that works out of the box.
    They should be very up front about these issues BEFORE the customer signs on to a new two year service contract; miscommunications like these that have a bearing on money the customer is going to spend and contractual requirements they will be bound by…in other professional occupations, is considered a criminal offense and the sales people that commit this offense are dealt with by imprisonment and loss of licenses.
    Why should Verizon be treated any differently?
    So for future buyers, beware that when you sign on to a new 2 year contact and put out some bucks for this 3G Bionic, it will work sometimes but don't look to Verizon or MOTO for any solution, they don't have one.
    Enjoy the phone, when it works, but expect significant problems that WILL happen regularly (flipping back and forth from 4-3G, disconnects from the internet when you get notifications or when it flips from 4 to 3G, battery not charging when you are connected to your computer, etc.), returning the phone will not fix the problem because the problem is not known to Verizon or MOTO.  The techs will tell you do disconnect the battery, the SIM Card, get a new SIM card, restart and/or do a hard factory reset.  None of this works.
    And if you don’t want to get locked into another 2 year contact, understand that your 14 day count down starts the day they send the phone to you, not the day you activate it, so that means that you really only have 12 days to try it out before you return it the post mark on the fed ex return package cannot be one day past the 14th day or you will be on the hook.  And don’t forget to also return the accessories to store before the 14 day marked on the receipt about 12 inches from the top (it is not in bold so look very close at the date at the top also) if you buy them at a Verizon store.
    If you replace the SIM card, as I did, don’t let some rep that isn’t paying attention to your file notes tell you that your 14 day count down is later than sooner, they (the reps) get confused or whatever they do, but they look at SIM card activation and not when the phone was sent to you or for that matter when you activated it.
    I’ve been under a lot of “miscommunicated” information from the start with my first 14 day 3G bionic so although I’ve done a lot of ranting here, I hope my information helps others not get stuck or at least you will go into this with eyes VERY WIDE OPEN.  
    It has been 2 years since I looked into any new phone and I was not aware of all the NEW scams, trickery and deceptions Verizon has taught their reps and supervisors to use on us, but it makes sense, their equipment is so faulty they had to figure out how to keep the money coming in.  
    DO NOT TRUST VERIZON to be helpful, they are there ONLY to lock you into contacts and stick you with equipment that they and their manufacturer cannot and do not know how to fix. 

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