Filters on non-conforming dimensions when fetching data from multiple facts

Hi,
I would like to confirm my understanding about how OBI fetches data from multiple facts. I have set up the BMM layer. Through Answers I am getting data from multiple facts as expected. However, is it necessary to base filters only on the conforming dimensions? If I do so, I am getting the correct data. But if I filter data on non-conforming dimensions, then I am getting more data which I am not expecting.
Suppose, Fact1, Fact2 and Fact3 share a CommonDim dimension. If I have a filter on CommonDim, then the filter is used on the three fact tables. However, if I filter data based on Fact1's DimTwo which is not shared by Fact2 and Fact3 and I have measurements from all the fact tables, then from the SQL generated, it seems that OBI is fecting all data from Fact2 and Fact3 and data from Fact1 where DimTwo = 'SomeValue'. Then it seems to be merging the data from the three result sets.
Is this expected, esp. a scenario where a filter is based on a non-conforming dimension (DimTwo in the example)? Have I missed anything? What do I need to do, if I want to return rows from Fact1 based on DimTwo's filter and then if there is data on Fact2 and Fact3 based on the value in CommonDim corresponding to DimTwo's filter?
Please let me know.
Thanks and regards,
Manoj.
PS.: I have got a link now which is http://obibb.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/multiple-fact-reporting-on-non-conforming-dimensions-part-ii/
Edited by: mandix on 25-Oct-2011 12:01

Hi
The problem you describe is similar to mine (I wrote several threads ago).
That is, if there is a non-conformed dimension in a report then the column from the fact table which is not connected with those non-conformed dimensions containes zeros or blanks.
Was this problem solved? I didn't quite catch one of previuos messages... If you can please repeat it more detailed.
What I tried to do is to set Total level in the Content tab (LTS properties). In this example - I could set Total level to JOBS in the plan type dimension. But it didn't help.
So if you know what to do then please describe it here...

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move i_mard-labst to i_final-labst.
WRITE: /10 'Material',
        30 'Material Desc.',
        75 'MRP',
        80 'Reorder Qty.',
        105 'Current Stock'.
LOOP at i_final.
Write: /10 i_final-matnr,
        30 i_final-maktx,
        75 i_final-dispo,
        80 i_final-minbe,
        105 i_final-labst.
ENDLOOP.
*LOOP at i_mard.
*Write: /10 i_mard-matnr,
       30 i_makt-maktx,
       75 i_marc-dispo,
       80 i_marc-minbe,
       105 i_mard-labst.
*ENDLOOP.
Regards,
Vishal

Change like this,
SELECT matnr
lgort
labst FROM mard
INTO CORRESPONDING FIELDS OF TABLE i_mard
FOR ALL ENTRIES IN i_marc
WHERE matnr = i_marc-matnr.
LOOP AT i_mard.
   WRITE: /10 i_mard-matnr,
   30 i_mard-lgort,
   40 i_mard-labst.
ENDLOOP.
LOOP AT i_marc.
   READ TABLE i_mard WITH KEY matnr = i_marc-matnr.
   READ TABLE i_makt WITH KEY matnr = i_marc-matnr.
   MOVE i_mard-matnr TO i_final-matnr.
   MOVE i_marc-dispo TO i_final-dispo.
   MOVE i_marc-minbe TO i_final-minbe.
   MOVE i_makt-maktx TO i_final-maktx.
   MOVE i_mard-labst TO i_final-labst.
   APPEND i_final.
ENDLOOP.
WRITE: /10 'Material',
30 'Material Desc.',
75 'MRP',
80 'Reorder Qty.',
105 'Current Stock'.

Non-conforming dimension filters

Hi,
Here how my join looks
FACT1>>product(dim)<< FACT2>>ledger(dim)>>RPT(dim)
Here RPT(dim) is non conforming dimension for FACT1 and product(dim) is common for both FACT1 and FACT2
I have set content level(LTS) only for conformed dim.( to detail)
When i drag fact1 and RPT(dim) ,my result is fine
but when i drag only FACT1 and use (USING filter) of RPT(dim) columns
i get error No fact table exists at the requested level of detail: [,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,].
FYI: Re: obiee 11g non-conforming dimension filters
can i know how to set content level for nON conformed dim? will tht solve problem
Regards
Sabeer
Edited by: 944346 on Sep 20, 2012 12:54 AM
Edited by: 944346 on Sep 20, 2012 12:55 AM
Edited by: 944346 on Sep 20, 2012 12:56 AM

I resolved this issue a while ago, but I hadn't posted back the results. Here is what happened...
I talked to Oracle support about my design and issues. They created a patch for me that would re-enable the 10g functionality so that my model/queries would work again. From their perspective, 10g's non-conforming code design was flawed and 11g was fixed to correct the flaw. This flaw was what allowed my model and queries to work in 10g.
NOTE: I have not tested the patch (bug# 11850704)
The only way to get things working on 11g without the patch is to find a common fact that all dimensions can join. After some consideration and testing, I decided that it would be possible to join all the dimensions to one fact with some backend design changes. I could have proceeded with the patch, but I doubt that the 10g functionality will be maintained in the coming releases. Therefore, I would only be delaying the inevitable redesign.
I have to admit that the final results have been positive and I have eliminated many of the 10g issues that I had with the design.

Obiee 11g non-conforming dimension filters

I have a non-conforming design configured in 11g that is functional. However, I have run into an issue where if I attempt to filter on columns from two non-conforming dimensions, I receive the following error.
[nQSError: 14023] None of the fact sources for logicalTable1.logicalColumn1 are compatible with the detail filter [].
I have not been able to resolve the issue, but I believe it is related to the design changes in 11g to configure non-conforming dimensions (I have documented the design changes in another thread). Oracle support has confimed my design, but I still have the filter issue. If I only filter on one column as opposed to two, the query executes without issues. Has anyone managed to resolve this issue?

I resolved this issue a while ago, but I hadn't posted back the results. Here is what happened...
I talked to Oracle support about my design and issues. They created a patch for me that would re-enable the 10g functionality so that my model/queries would work again. From their perspective, 10g's non-conforming code design was flawed and 11g was fixed to correct the flaw. This flaw was what allowed my model and queries to work in 10g.
NOTE: I have not tested the patch (bug# 11850704)
The only way to get things working on 11g without the patch is to find a common fact that all dimensions can join. After some consideration and testing, I decided that it would be possible to join all the dimensions to one fact with some backend design changes. I could have proceeded with the patch, but I doubt that the 10g functionality will be maintained in the coming releases. Therefore, I would only be delaying the inevitable redesign.
I have to admit that the final results have been positive and I have eliminated many of the 10g issues that I had with the design.

Filter and non-conforming dimensions

I have a model design which includes three fact tables with non-conforming dimensions. This causes BI to create multiple queries for a report and finally bring the results together using a full outer join at the end. When I attempt to filter on a field from one of the non-conforming dimensions, that filter is not applied at the full outer join step but during an earlier step related to the chosen filter field. This results in more data returning then desired. I need to move the filter to the full outer join step. Here are two sub-optimal methods that I have found to work around the issue.
1. Build the logical query in answers. Then, wrap that query with an outer query and apply the filter to the outer query.
2. Build a minus query in answers that removes the records you don't want to see.
I have seen this issue discussed in other threads, but I haven't found a good solution. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Thank you,
Edited by: user10715047 on May 21, 2010 7:13 AM
Here is a decent description of the problem
http://siebel.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/siebel-analytics-l/two-fact-tables-and-nonconforming-dimensions-3297052
and this is a better solution than the two I stated above. However, even this solution is not going to be very intuitive for the users
http://siebel.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/siebel-analytics-l/two-fact-tables-and-nonconforming-dimensions-3298529

i know this is a bit old thread but thought it might be helpful to someone who came across the same issue...
when using Degener@teDimen$ion ( this is !nner joned to FACT tables in BMM) and if any of the dimensions {other than theDegener@teDimen$ion (Let us say Dim X) } have an ()uter join to any of the fact tables, and you were doing your analysis using Degener@teDimen$ion, Dim X, Measure value you will face the following issues.
when filtering the analysis on the ()uter join dimension ( Dim X), the IN filter will not work. Reason is that the filter is getting applied to both the Dimension and FACT tables and the values that exist in Dimension Dim X but not in FACT table wont show up.
The above issue can be fixed by changing the join between the fact and Degener@teDimen$ion from inner to outer.
Please mark if you found this helpful.

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