Firewire External Enclosure very hot.

I am wondering if anyone else has a Serial ATA Seagate 200gb 7200rpm hard drive in a Firewire 800 external enclosure. Mine runs very hot in comparison to my IDE hard drives in the same OWC brand Firewire 800 enclosures.
If this is abnormal I would like to know so I can try to do something about it.
If it is normal for this type of drive to run quite hot then I will find a way to cool it down & keep on using it.
Thanks for any advice and/or experiences you have had with these!
PB
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You might want to post in the MacBook Air forum, then. This is the Apple Thunderbolt Dislpaly forum...
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