FireWire Solution, yes it's true!

Hey there!
When surfing the net I found a beautiful gadget which enables you to hook FireWire devices to your USB port. This could be the solution for everyone who's annoyed about the lack of FireWire.
You can connect Video cameras, external hard disk drives, scanners or even other computers.
And it supports the full FireWire400 speed!
http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~heha/bastelecke/Rund%20um%20den%20PC/u2f/index.h tml.en
The con is that the English site claims there is no Mac OS support planned. The German page sais that you have to adapt the Mac OS software to the USB protocol.
Enjoy it!
Kind Regards!

gpotts,
Yes, I know the old iPod 2G is obsolete, but it has a 20 gig drive on it and works perfectly. My son also has a newer iPod Nano with a small amount of storage space. He'll have to use that while he's away at college for any new music purchases. He has an old eMac at home with Firewire, so he can update his music collection onto the old Firewire iPod when he gets breaks from college. We'll survive.
I would love to give my son the gift of a new iPod, but I'm still paying for the Aluminum MacBook that I bought him for Christmas using my credit card. Sigh... Times are hard, but we'll survive.
It's my own fault for not checking out the tech specs more thoroughly. Let the buyer beware... I've been so busy with working full time and going to college myself, that I assumed a new Mac would have a Firewire port. I didn't check the specs for Firewire, only for the processor speed, hard drive size, RAM, etc.
The thing is, though, that with a PC laptop, you could buy a Firewire card and install it yourself. If Apple isn't going to put one in there, they should make it optional. I told them that in feedback. Apple can't compete if they're not going to treat their customer base fairly.
Donna

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