Firewire to Thunderbolt adaptor. 6-pin IEEE 1394 firewire for video transfer

Will the Apple Thunderbolt to firewire adaptor work with a IEEE 1394 6-pin firewire for video transfers?

You'll need a Firewire 800 (9-pin) to Firewire 400 (6-pin) adapter or cable, but yes, it should then work.
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IEEE 1394/Firewire port not seeing DV

Hey All,
New to this forum, but looking for some help.
I have read just about EVERY previous topic regarding the 1394 issues and cannot find a solution to my problem.
I CAN see the 1394 setting in CMOS, and it is set to "AUTO". Also, in the Device Manager, I can see "IEEE 1394 Controller" with no IRQ conflicts. I have updated all of my MSI drivers as well as CMOS up to current. I have installed the DV drivers that came on my Camcorder's CD as well as programs that are designed to utilize the DV out on the camcorder. Also, I have reconnected my two 1394 ports on the motherboard in every configuration to check if it was a connection problem. Tomorrow, I'm gonna go get another cable, but doubt that's it; it's brand new.
I plug in my Digital Camcorder (Canon ZR85) and there is nothing. Windows makes no notice of it, and when I run the program designed to utilize it, it says that it is not connected. I have followed the owner's manual to a 'T' for setting it up.
Here's my info:
Athlon XP2400
512 MB RAM
120Gig drive (SATA)
Windows XP Pro (SP1a)
Canon ZR85 MiniDV
4 pin to 4 pin IEEE 1394 Firewire cable
(This MiniDV Camcorder will only connect DV via 1394, not USB 2.0)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Saint

So... seeing that no one responded to my initial request for information to solve this problem and I was not able to find any other helpful forums out there, I decided to do the prudent thing and buy a new motherboard/cpu, etc.
I bought what was supposed to be a top-line mboard, the K8N Neo Platinum with an AMD 3000+ chip, 512 PC3200 Crucial memory, 200 gig SATA HD, and 3dForce 6800. What I have come to figure out is that my brand new MSI mboard has the EXACT DAMN PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I vowed years ago not to buy another MSI because of previous failures, but I was convinced that they were really producing quality boards now. Yet again, however, I guess I was fooled.
IF anyone has ANY help they could provide for this problem, I would be incredibly grateful. Otherwise, I'll have to take this mboard back, and I will NOT EVER buy another MSI product, and will be sure to tell everyone else the same thing.
Desperately,
Saint Raj

My macbook's mini displayport is actually a IEEE-1394 Firewire port..

I jut got a mini displayport to DGA cable today and pluged in to my macbook but no signal to the external monitor.
I took a good look at the side of the macbook, and the mini displayport (supposed to be) has a mark of IEEE-1394 Firewire simble on top of the port.
left next to this port has a monitor simble but it is a different shape (got a longer tung).
Can any one tell me what is wrong?
By serching the web, they all say (and all look like) the one I pluged in is the mini displayport.
I'm panicking....

Glad I could help. Here's the EveryMac page on your MacBook if it's a White 2.1Ghz. http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/stats/macbook-core-2-duo-2.1-white -13-early-2008-penryn-specs.html
Unless it's a White 2.4Ghz http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/stats/macbook-core-2-duo-2.4-white -13-early-2008-penryn-specs.html
Or a Black 2.4Ghz http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/stats/macbook-core-2-duo-2.4-black -13-early-2008-penryn-specs.html

Can I link my two laptops using IEEE 1394 (Firewire)?

Hi,
I have a X31 and a X60 laptop. Both are running on Windows XP Pro and both have IEEE 1394 (firewire) ports.
I seem to read it somewhere that I can do a network link between two laptops via the firewire ports.
However, it does not work for me after linking them with a firewire cable.
Am I missing something?

Am I missing something?
You have to configure the IPs on the both side as with any other network adapters.
Alternatively you can set the internet sharing to the fireware adaper, on one side only so the pc with internet shared will acts as DHCP server and the other will atutomagically configure itself with a correct IP.

T61p - IEEE 1394 (Firewire) port does not show up in device manager in Windows 7 x64

I have a T61p. On the front, in the left corner, right next to the wireless on/off switch, is a IEEE 1394 (Firewire) port. However, if I plug anything into it, it's not recognized by Windows, and if I go into the device manager in Windows, there is no IEEE 1394 host manager or ports or anything listed there.
I have rebooted and gone into the BIOS, and I don't see anything in there about 1394 either. Is the port there, but the hardwire inside is missing? Do I need to enable it somehow?

Let me clarify that. I have something in the device manager called "SD Host Adapters", and under that "SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller". That thing has a Microsoft driver.
However, under "IDE ATA/ATAPI contollers", I do see "Ricoh Memory Stick Contoller", "Ricoh SD/MMC Host Contoller", and "Ricoh xD-Picture Card Contoller".
I also have "PCMCIA adapters" that has "Ricoh R/RL/5C476(II) or Compatible CardBus Contoller".
So, it would seem I have the right drivers for the card reader, I'm just missing anything for the IEEE 1394 contoller...

Firewire to Thunderbolt Adaptor

Is the Firewire to Thunderbolt adaptor good for both Firewire 400 and Firewire 800?

It is FireWire 800 but you can use it with FireWire 400 devices with a FW800 to FW400 cable or adapter
<http://www.sonnettech.com/product/fw_adapter.html>

Resource Allocation for IEEE 1394 (Firewire) Cameras in Triggered Mode

In this article:
Resource Allocation for IEEE 1394 (Firewire) Cameras in Triggered Mode
http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/ED092614FCCC900D86256D8D004A3B0C
it says "The Bytes Per Packet value represents the number of bytes that are transmitted at consistent 125us intervals on the FireWire bus during image acquisition" and the reciprocal of the 125us value would seem to be the source of a value of 8000 in a subsequent formula used to calculate the frames per second.
Is this 125us value independent from the firewire bus speed or a function of it?
If it is a function of bus speed, how does it vary with speed?
(Is the 125us value for 400Mbps and 250us for 200Mbps?)
Thanks!

Hello Warren
Thank you very much for getting in touch with us. Although the Firewire standard itself is not technically supported by National Instruments, I will do my best to assist you. I am currently referencing the IEEE 1394 documentation. From what I'm reading, I do not believe the 125 microsecond value changes. I have copied and pasted the paragraph of interest under Bus Arbitration from a document that I referenced:
The arbitration mechanism gets more complicated when isochronous devices are connected on the bus, because those devices have already been guaranteed bandwidth. Each arbitration round is approximately 125μs long, so bandwidth is allocated as a portion of the 125μs interval. The root node broadcasts (sends a message to node 63, the broadcast address) a cycle start packet, which begins the arbitration round. All interested nodes send an arbitration request as before, and the winning node is still the node closest to the root. After .04μs of bus idle time, the remaining nodes arbitrate for control of the bus. Once each isochronous node has completed its transaction the time remaining in the 125μs interval is used for asynchronous transactions. Up to 80% of the bus bandwidth may be allocated to isochronous transactions and the remaining 20% is left available for asynchronous transactions.
The original document can be found here:
The FireWire Serial Bus and its Implementation
I, unfortunately, cannot claim to be an expert on the IEEE 1394 standard but from what I've researched, the 125 microsecond time allocation is standard and bandwidth is then allocated accordingly. I may recommend consulting IEEE 1394 Trade Association (http://www.1394ta.org/about/Contact.html) for more in depth information. Please let me know if this is sufficient or if I can be of further assistance. I will do everything I can to ensure that your issues is resolved.
Have a great day!
Sincerely,
Greg S.

HP HDX X18T eSATA - IEEE 1394 Firewire SPECS

I'm having trouble finding the specs for the eSATA and the IEEE 1394 Firewire. I'm looking for an external hard drive that has one or both of these connections. Some have a selection of Firewire 400 or 800 and the specs list it as IEEE 1394 Firewire. Granted that my laptop is from 2009, but it is a workhorse.
I have several Iomega esata desktop drives, but I'm looking to a portable one.
Thanks for your help,
Ruth
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It is definitely firewire 400 and the eSATA is going to be SATA I speed. What else did you need help with?

Firewire to Thunderbolt adaptor works... sort of?

Hey Guys
Have been trying to sort this problem for ages. I have a samsung mini dv camera I have used to copy home movies to my computer. Recently had to buy a new iMac and of course, it has no firewire. SO, I've bought the firewire to thunderbolt adaptor and while iMovie is now seeing what the camera is playing - the playback is patchy and blotchy. Any ideas?

I just went through this myself. Before I upgraded to Yosemite it was working and I read elsewhere that the latest OS doesn't like to work with Analog tapes. You didn't clarify but I was converting Analog to Digital through various components I had used previously.
After several attempts, what I ended up doing was installing iMovie HD (6) on my machine. When I tried to open it I got a warning that I couldn't run this software on this OS but you can by-pass that. Right click the iMovie HD application icon (instead of double-clicking to open) and select 'show contents'. Navigate down through the folder structure until you see another iMovie HD icon and double-click that. It by-passes the warning message and works great.
I'm now dumping many old tapes onto my machine. I plan to use the resulting .dv files (located under the Movies/Media folders) to edit/use in iMovie 10.
Good luck - hope this helps!!

Info urgently needed - Need IEEE 1394 (Firewire) connection

I need a IEEE 1394 connection for my T60 (1951 A47) for transfering digital video from our new HD video camera. How can I upgrade my laptop to receive such a signal?
Not solved but replaced by -> http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=T_Series_Thinkpads&message.id=19376
Kind regards
Per Buch Larsen
IBM Denmark, Communications
Message Edited by pbl_ibm on 10-10-2008 04:38 AM
Message Edited by pbl_ibm on 10-10-2008 04:40 AM
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Go to Solution.

I have searched for other issues in this forum regarding the mentioned PCMCIA IEEE 1394 adapter. It seems that people do experience troubles using it. Is there one adapter that is better than another? Should I change something in the setup of my T60? Simply, will it chrash?
Thans in advance
Kind regards
Per Buch Larsen
IBM Denmark, Communications

Difference between Firewire Cable IEEE 1394-Firewire IEEE 1394a-IEEE 1394b

I want to buy a 6 ft firewire cable 800 9-pin/9-pin to connect my Macbook Pro to an extrernal HD (G-Technology mini 500 GB)
I'm not sure what all the different IEEE #'s mean- IEEE 1394, IEEE 1394a, IEEE 1394b
Various reviews state not to buy cable that is all plastic at end since it breaks off. Some cables do not make good connection and fall out while others malfunction quickly.
I have MacBook Pro(13 inch), Snow Leopard installed, OS X 10.6.2, 2.53. GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB 1067 MHz DDR3
Any suggestions which brand firewire I should buy with which IEEE?
Thanks

On the back of your G-drive you're likely to see the label firewire 800, I believe that is what that drive uses. So does your MBP.
What you need is a firewire 1394b cable 9-pin to 9-pin, if you're worried about the brand you might try Cables-to-go, they sell good cable.
http://www.cablestogo.com/productlist.asp?catid=612
1394a is for the 400Mbps standard and the 1394b is for the 800Mbps standard.
The firewire that is on your MBP is 1394b and it's backward compatible to 1394a devices. If you ever need to connect a device that is for 1394a (400Mbps) then you'll need a cable that is 9-pin on one end and 6 or 4-pin on the other, which ever of the two the device uses.

Why is the IEEE 1394 Standard for digital cameras difficult to synchronize/trigger with other devices?

In the knowlege base, it generally says under "analog and digital cameras: advantages and disadvantags" that the IEEE 1394 is difficult to synchronize and trigger. Why is that exactly so and how can you solve that problem in DIAdem 8.0 when you would like to trigger your measurement inputs (accelerometers etc) together with a camera.

I would guess it is difficult to synchronize because it provides a software trigger. Latencies in the communication would make it difficult to perfectly synchronize two separate events.
Many firewire cameras also have a hardware trigger. If you were to use this with your other hardware, you would probably be able to get much better synchronization.
Bruce
Bruce Ammons
Ammons Engineering

W520 Replace DVD with another Hard Drive and IEEE 1394 spec for music recording

To increase the performance, I am taking the 160 GB SSD instead of the mechanical drive. Obviouslt, I need more space than this. I don't care about the DVD rom. It can't play blu ray anyway. Is it possible to replace the dvd drive with a hard drive? Where can I get a replaceable drive for this? What do I do with the DVD? Can I sell it back?
I need to do music recording with this. I was wondering about the IEEE 1394 spec; the latency etc. If I remember correctly the W510 IEEE1394 was very good, probably was manufactured by Texas Instruments. I could not find anything about it anywhere. Not even here: http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/tabook.pdf
Also, a bit worried about the sound card. How good is it? Did anyone use this laptop for music recording?

hey udvranto,
with regard to this, i would suggest contacting tech support via the number listed in the link below to check if it is possible to replace the dvd with your harddrive.
http://www.lenovo.com/contact/us/en/
on the part of the soundcard, I believe it is good for music recording. Though this really depends on the software that you're going to use to record.
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Dummy DV (IEEE 1394) grabber for Mac OS?

Is there some "stupid" utility for Mac OS, which would allow to grab video from DV camera via IEEE 1394 port without touching camers's controls?
I'm trying to use AV->DV dup function on my Canon Elura camera, when the analog signal is just translated to DV out. But iMovie is a control freak: it won't start importing without starting the cassete...
I'm thinking about something similar to dvgrab for Linux...

Utility...which would allow to grab video from DV camera
via IEEE 1394 port without touching camers's controls?...
iMovie is a control freak: it won't start importing without
starting the cassete...
I think there is some clarity missing here.
How one can get any signal, digital or otherwise, from a tape without actually playing the tape?
Or do you mean play the tape to get the DV out signal, but without capturing a MOV file on your HD?
In iMovie, clicking the play button will roll tape so you can view it onscreen, but it will not import when you do that.
Using the play button on the camera will also display within the imovie screen.
So my warped logic is telling me:
Presuming hitting the AV>DV button on your camera rolls tape and sends the digital stream out...it will beginn to display in iMovie, at which time clicking the import button should capture the digital stream the camera is outputting, which is the goal you are trying to achieve, right?

Ieee 1394 port for HP G60-127NR Notebook

Does the HP G60-127NR Notebook PC come with an IEEE 1394 port? If not, how do I add one? It has a 5-in-1 reader.

You may have exceeded the available power capacity of the USB ports in your notebook PC too many times. That can result in non functioning (forever) ports. That is the specific reason that I recommend only using externally powered USB hubs.
You can check the current carrying capacity of the USB ports and see how much they are using via the device manager.
Open Device Manager and then right-click a USB root hub. Select properties and then the Power tab.
This particular system has many ports available.
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