Firming of PR

Dear All
I am using MRP type PD and not using planning time fence. actually when i create a purchase requisition system firms it and consider it aschedule receipt.but it should not take it as sch. receipt.
Bcoz when i convert a plan order into PR without firming it.system does not take it as sch. receipt until and unless it is firmed manually.so why it firms the manual PRs

Hi ,
Please check whether there is any planning time fence for your plant in the below mentioned path.
SPRO->Production->Material Requirements Planning->Planning->MRP Calculation--->Define Planning Time Fence and Roll Forward Period.
Hope it will be helpful.
Regards,
Vijay.

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Bring process forward (reschedule in)
Within this rescheduling horizon, the net requirements calculation checks whether, after a requirement, a firmed receipt exists, which can be used to cover this requirement. Then the system displays a rescheduling date as well as the exception message Bring process forward for this receipt. The net requirements calculation then uses this receipt and the system will only create another procurement proposal if the receipt quantity is not sufficient to cover the complete requirement. Several firmed receipts can be used to cover one requirement.
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Not sure if CO41 can meet this need. If you select the lines & click on delete it is just removed from the list & not from the database. However if there is any new functionality added to CO41 for deletion would be glad to know.
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Firming

HI, if my earlier sales order cancels, next time when i run mrp, that cancelled sales order should be considered by the system and accordingly that planned ORDER GENERATED must be deleted. as i understand once it is firmed, that planned order will not be cancelled. please advise in which scenarios this firming functionality is useful. PLEASE ALSO ADVISE WHEN PROCUREMENT PROPOSAL GENERATES (PR), whether it will automatically become firmed or do we need to do firming manually. how to do the firmimng . please advise.

Hi
Firming indicator for planned order data
This firming indicator specifies whether the planned order is firm, that is, the system will not change either dates or lot sizes during planning runs.
The conditions in which the planned order /PR get firmed indicator.
1. For manually created planned orders:
The indicator is suggested by the system when the planned order is created. However, you can remove it if desired.
2. For planned orders created by planning runs:
The indicator is set by the system as soon as you have manually changed a planned order. However, you can remove the indicator when you change the planned order again.
Or
3. If the Planned order comes under the Planning time fence .
( The planning time fence specifies a period within which no automatic changes are to be made to the master plan )
The firming type determines how order proposlas are to be created or scheduled within the planning time fence.
For the PR,
If you change the anything in the PR say qty or dates. or if you process the PR so at the time the particualr PR get firmed.
please advise in which scenarios this firming functionality is useful
So the firm functionality will be useful , if you find this palnned order is going to uses in the future and it should not be deleted in the next mrp run. even though the reqmt is not available.
The firmed planned order will not be deleted by the mrp run

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I have a question related to MRP.
In my client, the MRP run will create PR directly without Planned Order.
The problem is, the MRP will delete the PR if the reservation is cancelled;
even if the PR is already released.
Is there any possible way to automatically set the PR to be firmed/fixed after it is released?
The purpose is so that the MRP will not delete the PR, even if the reservation is cancelled.
I really need your advice for this matter.
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He,
in the costomizing of the realse code you detrmin if the requsition will be firmd or not.
in IMG go to :Purchasing->Purchase Requisition->Release Procedure->Procedure with Classification-> Set Up Procedure with Classification
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click on the finel release indicator and set the V for:
Fixed for requirements planning
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Hi Anil
The '*' that you see means that the schedule line has been changed manually and the Firming indicator (EKET-FIXKZ) is set when there is any change to the Schedule line.
So, when a Delivery is created, the schedule line should be 'Fixed'.
Otheriwse, MRP can delete or change this schedule line and it would cause an inconsistency in the system. This is the logically intended behaviour.
Please see the F1 help for the field EKET-FIXKZ:
"Schedule Line is "Fixed"
Fixes the schedule line and determines that it cannot now be automatically changed as a result of materials planning and control/MRP activities.
Procedure
The indicator is set automatically if:
.- You make manual changes to a line of a scheduling agreement delivery schedule that was created via the materials planning process
.- You create a schedule line manually
Dependencies
You can specify whether Materials Planning/MRP can change delivery schedule lines within the firm and trade-off zones in the additional data for the scheduling agreement item."
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Hi , I have done the following to firm the schedule lines in Scheduling agreement.
1. Firm Zone as 30 days
2.Tradeoff zone days as 60 days
3.Binding MRP indicator as NULL(Lines not changeable within Zones)
4.In OMIN , Firm Schedule lines enabled for the MRP group
When i run the MRP, schedule lines are getting created with Firm Indicator (*) for the requirements lying within these zones. After transmitting the schedule lines to vendor , if i change the requirement again, the schedule lines within Firm Zone are getting adjusted as per the new requirment. I dont know whats the purpose behind maintaining these Firm Zone and Trade off Zone.
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Rolling delivery schedules issued under scheduling agreements are divided into different time zones indicating the degree to which lines of the schedule are binding.
Firm zone (zone 1) (go-ahead for production).
The schedule lines within this zone count as firm and thus as fully binding. If you cancel a schedule line that falls within the firm zone, the vendor is entitled to charge you with both production costs and the costs of procuring input materials incurred by him as a result of the cancellation.
Trade-off zone (zone 2) (go-ahead for procurement of input materials)
This is the "semi-firm" zone, giving the vendor the go-ahead to procure necessary input materials for the manufacture of the item ordered. If you cancel a schedule line within this semi-firm zone, the vendor is only entitled to charge you the material costs. Schedule lines falling within this time zone are thus less binding that those falling within the firm zone.

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many users change manually quantity in schedule lines but then the schedule is locked and becomes firm in MD04 ( * ) so that MRP does not take this quantity into account.
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When your users change a schedule line they are automatically firmed as the system can only assume that they know more about the supply position than it does.
MRP does take the quantity into account, however, it is not allowed to change the date nor the quantity, so any increase or decrease in demand is reflected in the first unfirmed schedule line.
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I had my firm zone in schedule agreement upto 21st Aug, 2010. And the schedule lines under release are like this
Category       Del. Date       Quantity                     Line type
D     08/12/2010     6,612.000          F
D     08/16/2010     6,612.000          F
D     08/19/2010     6,612.000          F
D     08/20/2010     6,612.000          F
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symbol indicates that you have done manual intervention in the purchase order mentioned.
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I want to know if there is or are some documents to know how to manage planning time fence in MM02 and firm zone in ME32L ?
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Romeo.

Dear,
Firm ZOne in SA, says that that much qty will be procured from that vendor with in that date specified, if not taken the production cost and cost related to that will be paid.
Now the planing time fence, is the time with in which no change is allowed. Hence if there is any new requirement to that RM, then it will be pushed to outside the time fence.
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Dear all.
I am in the process of setting up scheduling agreements (LPA type) with firm zone and trade zone in SAP 4.5b
The following issues I have:
1.) with the release via ME84, it gives me an error 'no processing message ME 857, no message record found'.
As far as I know the customizing is correct. Can some one give a tip about what I maybe have forgotten?
2.) I am also using the firm and trade zone, but in the automatic generated delivery schedules line it is not turning up?
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I have created the scheduling agreement and run the MRP by this the schedule lines are generated but the system has not set Firm or Trade-Off Zone Indicator how do I go head? IS there any customization/master data required to set the this indicator?
Please suggest.
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This depends a bit on how you communicate to your vendors.
Assuming EDI, then the message to the vendor will contain a few date fields
A. ABFDE End of production go-ahead
Which is the 'end' of the FIRM ZONE
B. ABMDE End of material go-ahead
Which is the 'end' of the TRADEOFF ZONE.
Upon receipt the vendors system will recognize these dates.
Assuming printout, you need to work in SAP-Script/Smartform to detail the effect of these date on your print.
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I hope someone has seen something like this before and can let us know where to look. MRP keeps pushing our delivery schedules out even though it is recommending that they be rescheduled in. What we'd like to happen is for MRP to leave these schedules alone so that they would move inside the time fence and be firmed automatically. Here is what is happening:
Part X, MRP type P1, firming type 1, MRP group blank. Planning time fence 05/07/2007, available quantity -20.
Three schedule lines exist for 05/07/2007, two for 10 and another for 30.
MRP will run tonight. Processing Key = NEUPL, purch req = 2, sched lines = 3, MRP list = 1, planning mode = 2, scheduling = 2
Tomorrow, the planning time fence will be at 05/08/2007 and the three schedule lines will move out to 05/08/2007. The won't move inside the planning time fence and firm up. They SHOULD BE 05/07/2006 and firmed!
We originally thought that we may have to create a release with ME84 before these would firm, but it made no difference. They still won't firm unless someone manually changes the date on each and every schedule line.
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Hello Randy,
thanks for the update. I didnt remenber this customizing indicator when posting.
Still wondering why planning matters here. I think it should have the same result for all planning modes. Of course planning mode 3 in general should be avoided for performance reasons.
For interested observers I attach the description for this setting in MRP customizing.
Regards, Martin
Indicator: Only Firm Transmitted Schedule Lines
In this step, you can set an indicator which is used to set only those schedule lines that have been transferred to the vendor.
You can firm schedule lines within the planning time fence (in the same way as planned orders or purchase requisitions) according to the master schedule item firming logic. The planning time fence is a number of days that is calculated into the future starting from the current date. Therefore, the last date of the planning time fence changes every day.
In the firming logic, existing schedule lines are also firmed as soon as they move into the planning time fence.
Schedule lines that lie outside the planning time fence and whose quantity is adjusted in the planning run due to a change of the requirements quantity are firmed with the new quantity as soon as the schedule lines move into the planning time fence.
The schedule lines are transferred to the vendor for the amount recorded in the stock/requirements list at the time of the data transfer.
If you only want to firm the schedule lines in the planning time fence that have been checked and transferred to the vendor, you can use the indicator, Only firm transmitted schedule lines. By selecting this indicator, the system only firms the schedule lines that have been sent to the vendor.
For schedule lines whose quantity has changed and which have moved into the planning time fence, the following occurs if this indicator has been set: if the MRP controller/purchaser does not confirm the procurement plan by sending the changed quantities to the vendor, the schedule line quantities that were sent to the vendor in the previous data transfer are firmed within the planning time fence. This guarantees that the system cannot firm any quantities that have not been checked. It also means that the vondor does not receive any messages for unchecked schedule line quantities.
Activities
Define the indicator per MRP group and allocate this MRP group to the materials for which this indicator is to be valid.
Further notes
The message transfer is a purchasing function. You can find it in the purchasing menu, Outline agreement -> Scheduling agreement -> Messages -> Print/transmit.

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