Floppy drive controller

I recently built a computer, and it has a problem booting windows xp, i turn it on, it gets past all the bios and raid stuff, then it gets to where windows should boot, and just sits still. I hit the restart button and it goes through the bios/raid stuff again, bringing up an error saying "windows was shut down improperly..." and allows me to choose safe mode/safe mode with network/safe mode with console/last good config/normal boot. I choose normal and it goes to windows.
Another problem is when i try installing older games like worms armageddon, or running spybot search and destroy or ad aware, it brings up a "windows - no disk" error, but it doesnt specify a drive. I disabled a majority of the parts and slowly enabled them, which finally showed the floppy drive controller was the device causing the problem. So i was wondering if these two problems could be connected to the floppy drive controller issue?
MSI NVIDIA nForce4 SLI Platinum
AMD 64 Winchester 3200+ 2.01 ghz
1 gb Corsair XMS 2x 512mb
74 GB Raid 1 Wester Digital Raptor 36.4gb Sata x2
Pioneer dvd-rw DVR-109 IDE x2
Mitsumi Floppy w/media card reader
MSI nx6600gt w/128mb x2 in SLI
Win XP Pro SP2
enermax whisper II 535w
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream
EDIT:It came down to the other sata raid controller on the k8n neo4 sli platinum, i disabled it and windows booted and the stupid windows no disk error is gone.

To be sure Floppy drive works, try it on other PC.

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  • [K8N Neo2] "initializing floppy drive controller"

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