For Capital goods in in Detail tab in Part one data Multiple serial numbers

Hi experts,
For capital goods i captured Part 1. Display Vendor excise details in item detail tab in part 1 columns Register,Year, Serial number, material document,year, item, internal number like that are there. In serial numbers four different serial numbers are generated. one is receipts and three is issues.
can anybody answer me why these four serial numbers are generated and three times issues is came. please do needful.
From.
Naveen.

Hi,
The possibilities could be becaz of :
1) Cost Center purchase , system updates QTY as well as Issues at the time of GR.
2) Item without Material Code
Pl. check
rgds,
vikas

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Hi Kalli,
In Administration-> Setup-> Financials-> G/L Account Determination-> Purchaseing Tab-> Tax Sub Tab-> "Capital Goods On Hold Percentage set" - 50 % and set GL in "Capital Goods On Hold Account" once you done these setting. When you are going to make Incoming Excise Invoice transaction that time system is booking 50% excise amount in current year and remaining 50 % will book in next year and same for Cess and ShCess.
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Dear sachin ,
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