For non valuated sale order

Hi Freinds,
I got the following error while doing customization for Non-valuated sale order. In the Requirement class i selected the 40 and went in to details and have not selected any thing in the field Valuation which means i want to have "Non valuated" sale order.
Only special stock with separate valuation can be marked.
Message no. VT387 Diagnosis It is only possible to price and mark for valued special stock, with reference to a sales document or a project. System Response Procedure Procedure for System Administration
Any ideas in this regards, kindly share with me.
Thanks in advance
Regards
siva

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Hi All,
Can anybody tell me the difference between the above said subject with the steps involved in each scenario.
That is valuated sale order stock and Non valuated sale order stock in Product cost by Sale Order.
With Journal entries at each step and whether any WIP or variances at Production order level and sale order level and all the financial entries related to them
Thanks in Advance,
Ravi Kumar

Hi Shail,
Thans for your inputs,
But I wanted to know it in more detail. In what scenarios they are used with financial entries in both the cases.
I will give you my scenario. It goes like this,
My client is in pipe coating business, who receives pipes from customers and does only coating work(which is considered as service) and despatches it to the customer. this process is carried on the basis of work order(Sale order).
Now Production order is created and work is done on that with reference to Sale order for that particular customer.
So the pipe which my client receives should be non valuated stock as it will not be a raw material to them and the cost incurred on it is booked on production order like chemicals as raw material consumption, activity cost etc.
now in this scenario just tell me how and at which stage FI entries get generated at Production order and Sale order level, and also at wat level Standard cost estimate should be created i,e at production order level or sale order level(sale order cost estimate).
Will there be any entries at goods isssue and GR against production order. If no then how the COGM account will get hit.
Please tell me this scenario in both cases Valuated sale order stock and Non valuated sale order stock with financial entries in Sale order costing.
Thanks & Regards,
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Non valuated sales order stock-help reqd

Dear Experts,
My client is into Pipe coating business who receives the pipe from the customers, coats it as per there requirements and dispatches it thereon. There is no concept of FG here as its only the service he is doing on it and also when he receives the pipe there is no raw material cost on it. Raw materials for him would be chemicals etc which he uses to coat the pipe.
This is the case of NON Valuated sales order stock.
1) non valuated GR will be done for customer stock -Only QTY update
2) sales order bom will be created with defined characteristic.
3) Plan cost of sales order will be updated based on Costing ID setting
4)Production order will be created based on Sales order.Good issue and Activity confirmation happen at Production order level but Good received only QTY but no value update.
5)Production order will be settled on sales order.Settlement profile of production order type must contain COST ELEMENT tick under settlement.
6)now my sales order contain actual cost of production.
7)No accounting document will be generated at PGI.
8)only accounting document will be generated at Billing.
9)Only COPA Document will be generated at Sales order settlement. I am going to create PA transfer structure in order to post COGM cost component wise.
Mi missing something?
Question
1) Whether all steps are correct
2) There will be no standard cost release and no variance calculation as well.
3)How can i use RA under non valuated sales order stock?.
4)HOw can i use customer stock under sales order bom with non valuated value?
5)How i will do Production order GR Only qty update?
regards
RK

Hi Raman
All steps are correct.. You seem to be an expert now!
THere wil be no Std cost release or variance calc
You can set up RA based on costs or Revenue... 1st of all check with your client whether they would like to have any WIP in this case
you can receive the customer supplied pipe using 501E movement as Non val
GR - Only Qty Update is controlled by Req Class... You need to leave Valuation field BLanlk in Req CLass and choose Acct Assn Catg E
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I know some of the basics about this scenario but i would like to know more about this scenario.
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Thx & Regards

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1. No need to run STD cost for FG? in case of non-valuated stock?
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4.It is possible to settele the Variance to sales order in non-valuted scenario?
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2. Sub- production order is also created if there is material Y , in the BoM of Material X & needs production : Production order 2 (linked to Production order 1).
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1. Generally these are new product (Material X) hence no standard cost is available for them. When does the cost estimate happens in such scenario. Is it when the first GR of material will happen ? When do I start see this cost estimate in Sales order.
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Hi Rajeshwari
1. If you use ABC - Then COGS split wont be available
2. Main diff between Valuated and Non val stock - Is once you produce and till you sell, the stock will appear in your balance sheet....
Non Val shud be chosen whe you make a material completely customized to the needs of a customer and the time lag between mfg and sale is very less....
If above two are not the case, then stock must be non valuated
3. Implementing the same template or introducing Val Sales order stock depends on the business needs.... The criteria to decide shud be based on (2) above
Also, if the new business where you are implementing now is the same as the existing business which is using non valuated stock, then you shud stick to the same template
4. Sales order cost estimate gets created during creation of SO, using the costing variant specified in req class... Not created during GR
5. Sales order costing does not make sense during Non Val Stock.... Unit Costing or prel costing you use during val Stock
Unit costing means you dont want to maintain a BOM... And you specify the components during sales order costing
6. I dont think you can settle prod order 2 to SDI.. You can try to change the settlement rule... In my opinion, you can not do it
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The client is requiring that inventory of these KMAT material should be shown in the financial accounting;however as we work with KMAT, this seems not possible.
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Summary
Symptom
It is not possible to perform results analysis on sales order items with materials of material type KMAT.
Additional key words
Transactions KKA3, KKAK
Cause and prerequisites
In make-to-order production, the inventory and the cost of sales are not posted through goods movements because the materials are managed in a non-valuated sales order stock. The only way to create postings in FI is to use results analysis (see Note 26456). If the sales order item consists of a material of material type KMAT, results analysis is not possible because no cost estimate exists for this material.
Solution
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