Forecast and consumption in APO for Third-party order processing

Has anyone tried to forecast in DP for the standard 3rd party order processing process in R3? The business wants to enter a forecast in DP, Release it to SNP and do planning as though it is a normal process. They also want the sales order entered in R3 to be passed to APO and consume the forecast. But, these sales orders with schedule line category CS don't transfer requirements and hence don't get passed to APO.
Has anyone tried any other workaround/process for this 3rd party drop ships? The standard 3rd party order process still needs to be used in R3 since it creates the Req when the sales order is entered and there is no GR on the PO nor any delivery created for the shipment to the customer. The Vendor ships the product directly to the customer and send an invoice to us. We then invoice the customer.
Any help is appreciated.

None of the gurus have answered to this thread.
So let me share my experience.
The answer to your question would be NO- Unless someone has really a workaround which I suspect.
We did speak with SAP on the same requirement as yours and SAP came back saying NO- There is no standard SAP provided solution.
Having Schedule line category- CS which results in a Purch Req and also passng the requirement is an impossible task through standard SAP
I tried many ways - however in the R3 Schedule Line config, you can maintain only one of them- Either generating a requirement or a Purch Req.
<b>The workaround which I can think of- which your company might not agree:</b>
Maintain stock at your internal location and change the sales order type from third party processing to a standard order type.
As you will be forecasting for these materials, the requirements and receipts can be generated far out in the future and can be passed on to the vendor who will supply you in advance.
I know this is not an optimal solution- However I cannot think of any workaround
Just tried offering some inputs as no one else was responding

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Hi arun,
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Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
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10. Billing
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hai Gurus
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             pls send me documents to my Id [email protected]
I will reward points for the helpfull answers
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Message was edited by:
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Hello Saravanan,
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<b>**REWARD IF THIS HELPS**</b>
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Route is not considering in delivery scheduling for Third party order proce

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Advance thanks for your inputs
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Example
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Hi,
the third party process is as fillows:
1. Item category is TAS and schedule line should be CS
2. MM01 general item category group is BANS
3. item category determination should be in T_184 table ORBANSNIL+NIL=TAS
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sk

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Someone must know!
We have a similar requirement. We do have CRM but don't wish to implement it for this purpose.
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Edited by: Dipak Kumar on Apr 13, 2011 6:43 AM
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our client is facing a problem.
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1. First you need to maintain ZTA1 and ZTA2 two item categories.( Replica of TAS)
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save the document.
Try this i hope it should work
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Regards
Sathya

Reg Third party order processing.

Hi Gurus,
Please help me on the following questions.
1. In third party order processing how costing is updated?
2. How automatic purchase requisition will be generated in third party order processing?
3. Explain about Third party returns process step wise?
Thanks in advance,msi.
Regards,
Vamsi P

HI vamsi
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing      *--
In Details:----
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      Save
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SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
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      Check the box next to the material
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      Click on "Assignments" button
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MIRO
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      Check the box
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      Amount
      State the baseline date
      Simulate & Post
      Invoice Number
      *Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
      In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
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Third Party Order Processing in CRM

Hi,
I need to create an item category in CRM which enables me to activate third-party order processing in ECC. So the process should be:
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- Save sales order
- Order triggers purchase req. in ECC (or sales order with item cat. TAS)
I read sap.help. where it says we need to use SCM etc. for this process. Actually we only have ECC connected. Is it still possible like that?
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