Forte M2 and Oracle 8.1.6 on Sun Solaris 2.5.1

Anybody out there running Forte M2 with Oracle version 8.1.6?? The best
would be on a Sun Solaris 2.5.1 machine.
Our Oracle dba wants to upgrade for another application but Forte's
certification matrix only goes up to Oracle 8.0.3
Any experiences with version M and Oracle 8.1 would be helpful.
Jerry Fatcheric
Verizon (Formerly Bell Atlantic Mobile)

did this problem ever get solved. My problem seems similar, but, I get the "value not allowed" with the "end-of-file on communication channel" errors

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Oracle 10g R2 installation on sun solaris 10 Sparc machine

Hi there,
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1. logged into a workstation
2. From its xterm terminal I logged to the oracle server via ssh oracle@ip
3. keyed in the following at the command prompt
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It is because of UNIX shell. I also faced this error during installation.
First check your shell by the following command.
$ echo $SHELL
Then select the below.
For csh shell
$ setenv DISPLAY 192.168.1.128:0.0
$ export DISPLAY
For sh,ksh and bash
$ DISPLAY=192.168.1.128:0.0
$ export DISPLAY
After you do this check the value of DISPLAY variable.
$ echo $DISPLAY
If the DISPLAY variable is set then run ./runInstaller.
One advice: Keep a complete log of your terminal session. This will help you in future :)
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Oracle 7.3.4 on Sun Solaris 7

Help needed
Could anyone tell me whether Oracle 7.3.4, Oracle 8, Forms 6 and Forms 5 are available for Sun Solaris 7? Thanks

Oracle 7.3.4 i guess is not available on Solaris Intel but is avaliable on NCR-MP RAS
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Is it Possible to install oracle 9i 32 bit on Sun Solaris Intel Edition

Dear OTN Members ,
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Can't download Oracle 9i Database Server for SUN Solaris 32 bit platform

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have additional information if in the future 32-bit will be
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Installation of Oracle 9.0.1 on Sun Solaris 5.8

Hi,
I am trying to install Oracle9i Enterprise Edition (9.0.1) on Sun Solaris.
I started the installer and the installation proceeded fine. When the installer asked for the second CD, I aborted the installation as the second cd was not available to me at that time.
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Could somebody please give a pointer on what needs to be done to get the GUI running?
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Hi harsh
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bye
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Forte and Oracle Trace

Hi,
Has anybody out there used Oracle Trace to monitor the performance of Forte
service objects that access data from Rdb databases. We have been trying to
do this and Trace does not seem to see the Forte servers. Could you please
e-mail me your experiences or any info that you may have in this regard.
Sudarshan Ranganathan
Lockheed Martin IMS
(504)454-7600 X186

We have developed a HA system using Forte and Oracle Parallel server on a Sun
cluster. Mail me directly if you want more information.
Regards
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Systems Architect
CSC Australia
570 St Kilda Rd, Melbourne 3004
Ph: 61-3-9536-4656 Mobile: 0417-468-414 Fax: 613-9536-4714
Email: [email protected]
[email protected] on 09/24/99 05:57:57 AM
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cc: (bcc: David Campbell/AUST/CSC)
Subject: (forte-users) Forte and Oracle Parallel Server
I'm interested in learning if anyone knows of any
successes using Forte with Oracle Parallel Server. I
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available system, but am having trouble locating
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Installing oracle 10g release 2 on spark solaris!! urgent help!

hi guys!
Am installing oracle 10g r2 on spark sun solaris. I did install the software without any pb, but when installing the database using dbca, I have this errors.
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set semsys:seminfo_semmns=1024
set semsys:seminfo_semmsl=256
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set shmsys:shminfo_shmmin=1
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni=100
set shmsys:shminfo_shmseg=10
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junior DBA in distress.

This appears to be because of low semaphores setting. Did you reboot your server after making the /etc/system parameter changes ?
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Sun Solaris 10,Upgrade 8 or higher,having issues with VxFS,for Oracle 11gr2

A while ago, we tried doing a prototype upgrade of our main Oracle 10g db to Oracle 11gr2.
The OS on which our Oracle 10g is running is Sun Solaris 10, upgrade 4.
According to Oracle 11gr2 documentation, we need Sun Solaris 10, upgrade 6 or higher for Oracle 11g2.
The filesystem we are using is VxFS, Veritas File System.
According to our system administrator, we had issues , making Sun Solar 10, upgrade 8 , work with the VxFS filesystem.
I was wondering if anybody is running Oracle 11g2 on Sun Solaris 10 upgrade 6 or higher with VxFS file system.
At present, our Oracle db upgrade project is on a hold, because of the above issue. So your help on this , can really help us in figuring out if there is an issue between VxFS filesystem and Sun Solaris 10 OS.
Thanks
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Hi Ashish,
We are not running Veritas Cluster file system.
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ZFS has certain memory parameter setting. If you did not configure that then ZFS will eat your complete system memory.
My system administrator, has gotten a copy of Solaris 10 upgrade 9 and will try that with VxFS.
I was curious to find out if folks are running Oracle 11g on Sun Solaris 10 with VxFS file system and if they had experienced any issue.If you can Install Vxfs on Oracle Soalris 10 U9, then according to me there sholudn't be any limitations for an oracle database.
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(V7.3 ~ V8.X) ORACLE DB AUTO STARTUP/SHUTDOWN ON SUN SOLARIS 2.6/2.7

제품 : ORACLE SERVER
작성날짜 : 2003-06-02
(V7.3 ~ V8.X) ORACLE DB AUTO STARTUP/SHUTDOWN ON SUN SOLARIS 2.6/2.7
====================================================================
PURPOSE
이 자료는 O/S startup 시에 Oracle RDBMS 서비스를 자동으로 startup하
는 방법에 대한 자료이다.
Explanation
sun solaris 부팅 시 oracle DB를 auto startup하도록 하는 데 관련된 화일들이다.
/etc/inittab : o/s의 초기화 과정을 조절하는 화일
/etc/rc2 : 부팅 run-level 2 에서 사용되는 스크립트
/etc/rc0 : 부팅 run-level 0 에서 사용되는 스크립트
/etc/rc2.d/S99dbstart : /etc/init.d/dbstart 에 대한 symbolic link
/etc/rc0.d/K01dbshut : /etc/init.d/dbshut 에 대한 symbolic link
/var/opt/oracle/oratab : 시스템에 설치된 오라클 인스턴스에 대한 정보.
(참고)
/etc/init.d/dbstart, dbshut 화일은 super user(root)로 생성하시고,
symbolic link도 super user로 만드시기 바랍니다.
이 화일들은 super user가 owner가 되도록 하고, super user(root)만이
실행 가능하도록 해야 합니다.
1. 먼저 vi /etc/inittab 화일을 열어보십시오.
ap::sysinit:/sbin/autopush -f /etc/iu.ap
fs::sysinit:/sbin/rcS >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
is:3:initdefault:
p3:s1234:powerfail:/usr/sbin/shutdown -y -i5 -g0 >/dev/console 2>&1
s0:0:wait:/sbin/rc0 >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
s1:1:wait:/usr/sbin/shutdown -y -iS -g0 >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
s2:23:wait:/sbin/rc2 >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
s3:3:wait:/sbin/rc3 >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
s5:5:wait:/sbin/rc5 >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
s6:6:wait:/sbin/rc6 >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
fw:0:wait:/sbin/uadmin 2 0 >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
of:5:wait:/sbin/uadmin 2 6 >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
rb:6:wait:/sbin/uadmin 2 1 >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
sc:234:respawn:/usr/lib/saf/sac -t 300
co:234:respawn:/usr/lib/saf/ttymon -g -h -p "`uname -n` console login: " -T
sun
-d /dev/console -l console -m ldterm,ttcompat
s1부터 s6까지 os file들에 대해 위와 같이 device redirection이 연결되어
있으면 됩니다.
s2:23:wait:/sbin/rc2 >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
위와 같이 설정하면 run-level 2일 경우 /sbin/rc2 스크립트가 실행된다.
/sbin/rc2 는 /etc/rc2.d 디렉토리에 들어있는 스크립트를 실행한다.
만약 스크립트가 S 로 시작하면 /sbin/rc2 는 이 스크립트에 startup 파라미
터를 부여하고 여기서 지정된 프로세스를 실행시킨다.
따라서 /etc/rc2.d/S99dbstart 화일을 사용하여 dbstart를 실행한다.
shutdown 과정도 거의 비슷하다. /etc/inittab 에 다음과 같은 라인을 보자.
s0:0:wait:/sbin/rc0 >/dev/console 2>&1 </dev/console
이것은 /sbin/rc0 를 실행시키는데 /sbin/rc0 는 /etc/rc0.d 디렉토리에
들어있는 스크립트를 실행시킨다.
스크립트 이름이 K 로 시작하면 이것은 stop 파라미터를 갖고 실행되어서 이
스크립트에 지정된 프로세스를 정지시킨다.
따라서 /etc/rc0.d/K01dbshut 스크립트는 stop 파라미터를 갖고 실행되며
이 스크립트는 $ORACLE_HOME/bin/dbshut 스크립트를 실행시켜서 오라클을
shutdown 시킨다.
2. 그 다음에 vi /etc/rc2 화일을 한번 열어보세요.
이 스크립트 화일은 run-level 2에서 사용되는 스크립트입니다.
특별히 수정할 내용은 없으나, 이 화일이 존재하는지 확인해 보십시오.
PATH=/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
set `/usr/bin/who -r`
if [ x$9 = "xS" -o x$9 = "x1" ]
then
echo 'The system is coming up. Please wait.'
BOOT=yes
3. 그 다음에 vi /etc/rc0 화일을 한번 열어보세요.
이 스크립트 화일은 run-level 0에서 사용되는 스크립트입니다.
특별히 수정할 내용은 없으나, 이 화일이 존재하는지 확인해 보십시오.
PATH=/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
echo 'The system is coming down. Please wait.'
# make sure /usr is mounted before proceeding since init scripts
# and this shell depend on things on /usr file system
/sbin/mount /usr > /dev/null 2>&1
# The following segment is for historical purposes.
# There should be nothing in /etc/shutdown.d.
if [ -d /etc/shutdown.d ]
then
for f in /etc/shutdown.d/*
if [ -s $f ]
then
/sbin/sh ${f}
fi
fi
4. /etc/init.d/dbstart 와 /etc/init.d/dbshut 스크립트를 만들어야 합니다.
그 내용은 각각 다음과 같이 한 줄로 작성합니다.
/etc/init.d/dbstart 화일은 다음과 같이 만듭니다.
su - <oracle_owner> -c <$ORACLE_HOME>/bin/dbstart
/etc/init.d/dbshut 화일은 다음과 같이 만듭니다.
su - <oracle_owner> -c <$ORACLE_HOME>/bin/dbshut
5. /etc/rc2.d/S99dbstart 화일을 /etc/init.d/dbstart에 대한 link로 생성합니다.
ln -s /etc/init.d/dbstart /etc/rc2.d/S99dbstart
6. /etc/rc0.d/K01dbshut 화일을 /etc/init.d/dbshut에 대한 link로 생성합니다.
ln -s /etc/init.d/dbshut /etc/rc0.d/K01dbshut
7. /var/opt/oracle/oratab 화일을 엽니다.
oratab 화일은 일반 텍스트 화일로서 시스템에 설치된 오라클 인스턴스에 대한
정보를 가지고 있는데 보통 3개의 필드로 이루어져 있으며,
첫번재 필드는 ORACLE_SID, 두번째 필드는 ORACLE_HOME, 세번째 필드는 Y 또는
N으로 구성되어 있습니다. 해당 인스턴스를 auto startup 시키려면 세번째
필드가 반드시 Y로 세팅되어 있어야 합니다.
아래에 예를 참조하세요.
ORA805:/oracle4/ora8/app/oracle/product/8.0.5:Y
ORA815:/oracle4/ora8i/app/oracle/product/8.1.5:Y
(주)
만약, <$ORACLE_HOME>/bin/dbstart 수행에 오류가 있으면 기존의 dbstart 화
일을 다른 path에 rename하고, 아래 내용만 가지고 <$ORACLE_HOME>/bin/ 아래
에 dbstart 화일을 다음과 같이 만든다.
svrmgrl <<EOF
connect internal
startup
exit
EOF
Example
none
Reference Documents
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Hi Frank,
This is a bug in 9.0.1. It is fixed in 9.2 and
backported to 9.0.1.2 (rdbms 9.0.1.2 patch). Note that you
need to specify the sdo_indx_dims=2 in the parameter clause.
As a workaround in 9.0.1.0 you could do:
(1) remove the z coordinate (as you mentioned),
(2) set the srid to null (instead of 8307) both in
the geometries as well as the index metadata,
(3) set geodetic=false in the create-index parameters.
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Installing Oracle 8.1.5 on Sun

Can anybody help me in installing Oracle 8.1.5 on Sun Solaries 2.8 for INTEL. I have the Oracle CD that comes with Solaries 2.8 software but everyime when I insert the CD, the system does'nt mount it.
K

hi,
Please confirm that your media(oracle 8.1) is for Intel Solaris or for Sun Sparc (RISC).
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[email protected]

OSB on Sun solaris and JMS Reporting

Dear all,
When I install OSB and configure domain for OSB on Sun solaris, I encounter error when start manage-server:
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at com.bea.wli.reporting.jmsprovider.init.JmsReportingDBCreate.createDBObjects(JmsReportingDBCreate.java:78)
at com.bea.wli.reporting.jmsprovider.init.JmsReportingStartupAndShutdown$1.run(JmsReportingStartupAndShutdown.java:58)
at weblogic.security.acl.internal.AuthenticatedSubject.doAs(AuthenticatedSubject.java:363)
at weblogic.security.service.SecurityManager.runAs(SecurityManager.java:147)
at weblogic.security.Security.runAs(Security.java:61)
Truncated. see log file for complete stacktrace
So it seems like I have to use RCU for create table but there is no version for sun solaris.
Please kindly help how to solve this issue. I use Sun Solaris 64bit

RCU is available for Windows & linux platforms only but it can be used to create schema's on remote databases as well. So in case your DB is on non Linux/Windows platform, then run RCU from any machine with Linux/Windows plaform and create schema's on remote database.
Please refer -
http://onlineappsdba.com/index.php/2009/10/09/how-to-create-fmw-11g-schemas-soa-webcenter-on-solaris-non-windowslinux-platform/
Regards,
Anuj

Forte support of Oracle and VMS

We need to deploy a Forte V2.0.F.2 application on VMS V7.1 and Oracle
V7.3.2
Forte does not officially support this configuration!
Anyone out there tried it, and what were the results?

Hi Jürgen,
Window Server 2008 is not supported at present. Oracle 11g should be supported - I believe a few of my clients are using version 11g.
All the best,
Luke

RE: Rel 3.0 and Oracle

Debbie,
Yes, we have the same (or similar) problem. When trying to connect to
Oracle I get some type of deserialization error & a connection is never
made. I've sent it in to tech support & I haven't heard anything back.
On a side note, I'm also having a problem on 3.0.E.0 when I lose the
initial connection & try to re-connect. The reconnect fails. We're
trying to implement the Forte Persistence Plan using the DBResourceMgr.
I've been working with Tech Support for over 2 weeks, but we still
haven't solved the problem.
From: Debbie Richards[SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 1997 1:21 PM
To: Forte Mailing List
Subject: Rel 3.0 and Oracle
To all,
We have just upgraded our development environment to Forte Rel
3.0.f.2 and
now we can no longer get a connection to Oracle 7.3.3. Has anyone else
had a
problem after the upgrade to 3.0? We are using the remote connection.
Automatic_ipc has been set to off in the sqlnet.ora Nothing has
changed on the
Oracle side or with any Oracle related environment parameters.
We have put a
problem into Forte on this also.
Basically our development has ground to a halt, so any help would
be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
Debbie Richards
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To all,
Thank you all for the quick response. The problem turned out to be the
FORTE_STACK_SIZE parameter. Although we were not getting the sympton
described in tech note 10908 I decided to set the parameter to the
recommended minimum described in the tech note. After setting the parameter
we were able to connect to Oracle.
So if anyone has connection problems when upgrading, this is something to
look at even if your symptoms do not match those described in the tech note.
Thanks again,
Debbie Richards

INFORMIX and ORACLE on LINUX

Hello Stephen,
some time ago we talked about Forte for LINUX. Now I think it will need
not a long time that Forte is available on LINUX.
INFORMIX and ORACLE has officially announced that they offer their
Database on LINUX. Now it is only a question of time, that Forte
got a business-case from big Firms which want to see Forte on LINUX.
In GERMANY I know that Mercedes use LINUX for car-development and
Sixt-Budget use LINUX for their car-rental (worldwide).
I think, if Forte is availaible for LINUX than a big beng goes through
the IT-Market. Many firms just wait for a OO-orientated 4GL-Development
environment to distribute their business-processes to many little
servers which are cheap and powerfull. It is than a question of
less money to use a big machine or just 10 or 20 LINUX servers (which are
cheaper and faster).
Sorry for my enthusiasm on this mailing list, but i'am
so happy to hear from this and want's to cry it out all over the world :-)))))
Joseph Mirwald

At 09:03 AM 8/22/98 +0200, Joseph Mirwald wrote:
Hello Stephen,
some time ago we talked about Forte for LINUX. Now I think it will need
not a long time that Forte is available on LINUX.Well, I suspect if you ask them, the official policy statement is: Linux is
not a supported platform at this time, and we cannot discuss unannounced
products. (or some such thing). Privately, talking to some of the Forte
people at FORUM this year, I was distinctly left with the impression that
it will be a cold day in hell before such a port is done.
INFORMIX and ORACLE has officially announced that they offer their
Database on LINUX. Now it is only a question of time, that Forte
got a business-case from big Firms which want to see Forte on LINUX.Well, I haven't talked to our Oracle sales rep, but I did go to their web
site and I couldn't find anywhere where you could download it, or much more
than a "how great it is" statement. Based upon my prior dealings with
Oracle, and some well documented cases, I would be surprised if you could
get it today - delivered and working, that is.
Informix, on the other hand, I just downloaded (not installed yet, but at
least I have in my hot little paws something that says it will be Informix
on Linux).
One of the problems that Forte faces in the marketplace is the cost of the
product. Yes, it does a lot (personally, I'm quite a fan). But, some IT
shops - especially the ones that have capable people on staff - are
beginning to look at the distributed object characteristics of Java and
asking "Why can't I do what I want with Java RMI, etc.?" When I talked to a
Forte salesman at FORUM, his only response was "Well, those really aren't
Forte customers anyway!" As Java adds things like transactional objects,
transparent database access (yup! persistent objects in a relational
database - without all the coding - and with performance too!), JavaSpaces,
Jini, etc. I think it's a "head in the sand" approach for Forte to ignore
this. To me, Java presents some very compelling features. And, according to
some friends I have inside of Sun, basically all of the brightest people in
Sun have all migrated over to doing the Java stuff, so it's only likely to
get better. People like Rick Cattel (databases) and Jim Waldo (distributed
object systems) who have been giving this stuff lots of thought for
years!! That's why it's so well thought out when you see it for the first
time.
The only glaring omission from it seems to be a generic event queue
mechanism. Fortunately, given the other stuff Java has to offer (RMI, event
classes, etc.) you can build a very good one in about a man week. In fact,
Java has one, they just didn't take a "high" enough superclass - they
limited it to AWT events. If they had made it all events, you wouldn't even
have to build that.
Now, don't get me wrong... Forte is planning to incorporate lots of really
cool Java stuff in their next release (preannounced at FORUM). But to me,
that's not the issue on a larger scale. The real issue is this: are
environments which are cheaper incorporating a lot of what Forte does - and
the answer is Yes! Incidentally, there is a version of the Java environment
being developed for Linux under the GNU license, for the express purpose of
making it open and keeping it free (and open). Someone recently told me
that it is now available, but I haven't confirmed that yet.
In GERMANY I know that Mercedes use LINUX for car-development and
Sixt-Budget use LINUX for their car-rental (worldwide).My perception is that the Europeans are more progressive and cooperative
than us in the states. Most of the really good Linux help I've gotten on
the net has been form Europe (including a wonderful sendmail
site/expert). :-)
I think, if Forte is availaible for LINUX than a big beng goes through
the IT-Market. Many firms just wait for a OO-orientated 4GL-Development
environment to distribute their business-processes to many little
servers which are cheap and powerfull. It is than a question of
less money to use a big machine or just 10 or 20 LINUX servers (which are
cheaper and faster).Well, as I was indicating above, people who are cost conscious might be
searching for lower cost alternatives to Forte itself.
Sorry for my enthusiasm on this mailing list, but i'am
so happy to hear from this and want's to cry it out all over the world:-)))))
<soapbox>
So, who says that all reactions have to be between 4 & 6 (5 being
neutral)!! Don't apologize. If you're excited - be excited! That's what
life is all about.
</soapbox>
Stephen

Forte M2 and Oracle 8.1.6 on Sun Solaris 2.5.1

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