FreeHand Page

I wanted to remind everyone that the page is doing some good.
We do have a lot of signatures, and the counter shows well over
3,000 visits. All we need to do is to keep letting people know that
the page is out there. FH Addict, I really appreciated your efforts
in getting the Mac websites in France to mention the page. It
brought a lot of visitors! We need some North American people to do
the same for the US!
I also want to say it's nice how respected the page
is...aside from a few comments that needed to be deleted. It's
great to see FreeHand praised without having to trash the
competition!
And thanks to someone who finally posted from my home state
of Connecticut here in the US! Other users from there please post
your comments too!
One other thing (sorry for the length). I would like to do a
font celebrating what FreeHand can do. I would like to have
contributions from others on this board (dg, Judy, Bembelembe, FH
Addict and others) for this font. I couldn't pay any of you, as the
sale of the font would go toward increasing the bandwidth of my
website and finally starting the gallery of FreeHand images online.
Would any of you be interested in contributing to a font like this?
I would give you credit on my webpage. You can see an example of a
font I did using FreeHand at
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/enrich/rich-dingbats-and-bursts/
i am in the process of building the webpage for submissions but
just wanted your thoughts on it.
I just think it would be nice to have a font that shows what
FreeHand is capable of.

I grew to love fh so much that the thought of it leaving the
scene is too much for words.

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Freehand page will not scroll

I use FH10 for Windows. I recently had to reinstall and now
my page will not scroll. It scrolls in other applications

This behaviour looks like [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602882 bug 602882] which is applicable to Maemo.

CS4 Controlling Artboards

I am just getting into the multiple artboards in Illustrator CS4 and feel they are an even better implementation of what used to be back in FreeHand many years ago.
There are a few issues however:
1. Reordering the artboards to the number order I would like without reconstructing them from scratch.
2. Positioning them by their edges instead of by their centres, which requires a lot of math and probable errors.
Any suggestions? Thanks.

Unfortunately smart guides don't seem to work with artboards.
For some weird reason only known to Adobe, artboards are located by their centres and I can think of no good reason to align them thus. Sensibly you would align them by their tops or left hand edges making it easier to slide across elements in common positions.
I'll experiment to see if there is an equivalent to the paste in place command going from one artboard to another but don't hold out much hope.
I like the on screen appearance of the CS4 artboards over the more shambolic appearance of FreeHand pages, but agree that the snap to grid was a better implementation of alignment, though not the ideal one.
I think Adobe always implements new features badly so that it can "upgrade" them at the next version and US$k. Either that or it has the most dumbed down committees in charge of feature implementation.

FreeHand Support Page Still Active

As many of you are probably aware, there are some problems
with the page now. Don't worry...I do have a backup, but I only
have the backup up to May 23. If any of you are able to rescue
comments from the 24th on (maybe it's still in someone's cache?), I
don't know if that's possible but it was worth it to ask!
There is something wrong with the host I am using for the
page. I can't even log on. They are not there today but they will
fix whatever is wrong with the server sometime tomorrow, hopefully.
Sorry for the inconvenience, but it will be back online tomorrow. I
did put a page up (it let me somehow copy a file over) explaining
the situation.

Hey DJ, here is the link to get post to 25th :
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:_dfin0MhceQJ:www.enrichdesign.com/freehand.html+freeha nd+support+page&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=safari
hope it helps!

Page setup crashes in freehand 10

I am running Freehand 10 with Mac OS 10.4 and when ever I try
to go to "page set up" to change printer paper size the program
crahes. Also within the printer dialog box when I select paper
handeling it also crashes. Thus I cannot tell the program or
printer what paper size I want tto use, Can anyone help

Hi BDAqua,
There was an HP (photosmart?) printer installed in the Print & Fax system preferences pane, but all printers were removed when I reset the printing system in Printer Setup Utility so my thought is that something was changed outside of the printing system to cause this issue.
This does raise another question though, is CUPS reset to the default when the Printing System is reset, or is there another, more complete way to reset CUPS through the command line?
Thanks for the reply.

FreeHand Support PAGE

http://www.enrichdesign.com/freehand.html
Post your comments...
This is OUR (FH USERS) Petition to ADOBE. the reaction to the
page is increasing exponentially.
Lots of users from GERMANY...
its time North America starts writing too!

I just received the confirmation that on wenesday 12 :
http://www.macbidouille.com
or
http://www.hardmac.com (english
version)
the FreeHand Support Page will be posted as a news. That's
important because macbidouille is the biggest website concerning
the macintosh here in France, it's also a reference in the rest of
the world - even Apple is reading their news every day ;-)
Keep the faith
EDIT : because of Macbidouille people from France + belgium +
Switzerland are posting more and more.
Unfortunately, from now there is still no english translation
on
hardmac . Maybe later

Freehand MX installer page not working

When you go to this page https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?loc=en_us&product=freehand to install Freehand MX, the links do not work. They send to a 404 page. I bought a new computer and I am trying to reinstall Freehand MX for the sole purpose of installing my Illustrator CS3 update. It worked perfectly on my old computer. I have a PC running Windows 8. HELP!

Did you contact Adobe support? Maybe it is a glitch in the downloads as it has worked fine a couple months ago.

Freehand 10 crashes when choosing "Page Setup" on OSX 10.4

I have seen this issue in other posts, but it was not solved and was archieved. I saw a solution of using an older file to work from, but has anyone found a fix for this yet? This has become a big issue since we change paper sizes constantly.

The problem has been cleared.

Can Pages open Freehand files?

Just curious, because I really want it to.

I can't believe I asked this in the keynote section. My apologies.

I've just switched from Freehand and I'm going to have a heart attack ...

In two weeks, my tech department is ripping Freehand MX off of my machine and I'll be finally forced to use Illustrator.
I know it is going to take a bit of time to get used to Illustrator after using Freehand for the past 15 years, but if someone out there can help me with two questions, I'd sure appreciate it because the Adobe help files aren't as helpful as I'd hoped. (Adobe: screen captures are a useful visual guide when I can't find the "t-slider" and have no idea what it might look like ...)
1. How do you adjust the tint of a color? Apparently there's supposed to be a "t-slider" in the color palette. Perhaps mine isn't visible for reasons unfathomable, but if I create a color and I want to use 10 percent of that color as a tint, I don't want to whip out a calculator and drag each of the CMYK sliders accordingly. I want to use the feature Freehand had, where you type in "8" in the tint box and voila, you've got 8 percent. InDesign has this feature, so I know Adobe knows about it. Where is the tint slider in Illustrator? (I don't want to change its transparency, I did find that palette easily enough ...)
2. If I paste in a graphic from Freehand into Illustrator, everything comes over on one layer. That's annoying, but understandable. But I can't select parts of the graphic and assign them to new layers, they remain firmly on the first layer they were pasted on unless I copy each item, delete the original, click on my new target layer and paste it on that way -- and then, it doesn't paste perfectly back into place, it moves randomly around the page and I have to reposition it. ARGH! How can you reassign layers without cutting and pasting? Clicking doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
Many, many thanks in advance from a *very* frustrated designer. If I thought I could secretly reinstall Freehand on my machine without tech hunting it down and ripping it out again, I wouldn't be fretting about such things ...

Doug, you gave me the first giggle I've had since I opened this blasted program, so thanks for that.
I'd love to keep secretly installing Freehand, because you can save your finished work as an Illustrator file, and I could then open it in Illustrator CS3, save the final as a CS3 EPS file and nobody would be the wiser ... except my tech department is prone to periodic look-sees on everyone's machines, there was a massive freakout that went all the way to the publisher's office when they discovered I'd installed .... wait for it .... free fonts on my machine that weren't part of the Adobe package they bought. In the end I had to yank the fonts out, despite showing them the read-me files that came with the fonts that expressly permitted usage in commercial applications. It's a very controlled environment. I now have 12 days left to start converting all my files ...
The good news is I'm pretty sure they're going to hurl the Freehand install disc at my head when they rip it out of my work station, so I can put it on my home iMac, where I'm still running Tiger. Now to convince them to let me work from home ...
Thanks again to everyone for all the advice,
~michelle

How come pages won't open PDF files made by Pages?

How come pages won't open PDF files made by Pages?
I have files I made with Pages and exported as PDF but I can't open them with pages to edit?
Also, where are the recent files created by pages located? Can't find those to open either..

Hi Tom,
I was delighted when I signed up for Pages. Clunky yes, but it worked. I've been a graphic designer on a Mac for 25 plus years and have logged too many horror stories of "upgrade" wars which cost me massive lost time, data and money forcibly extracted just so I could finish a project.
When I first used Pages in April of 2012? or there about, I was able to open Word documents exported to .pdf format, emailed to me, which I then dragged into Pages. I could make the changes I needed to make, export as a .pdf, return it back to my client which they could then edit on whatever it was they were using. I'm not a neophyte with this. I've had Original Photoshop as a stand alone, Quark (which locked users out 6 months after I purchased it.) Quark again, Freehand, Pagemaker, Illustrator, Photoshop again, Creative Suite for several upgrades, Acrobat Pro. 2 years ago I lost 6 years of Quicken data and had to and "upgrade" start over. This last go around I had to "upgrade" my Apple ID - yes I had 2 on purpose, lost my Pandora One and my ability to get into the Tulsa County Library website.
At this point, I'm retired and feel like what I've paid for in the past should WORK today. I have a 100+ page cookbook in Quark which I was able to export as a .pdf, that I've lost the tags too, Easier to start over. I have artwork that is hundreds of megs in Photoshop. Not the least bit interested in anybody's "cloud".
Thanks for letting me vent. I'm determined to keep my equipment and software up to date so I can enjoy the skills I've acquired, but I completely cringe at Apple's antics. I truly hate it when I have to respond to some new "tip" or product offer. BooHiss. Happy Turkey Day. Pages is a "turkey" program.
Best regards, mbd

How do I output a large Ai file as multiple PDFs (via views, pages, whatever)

I am working in FreeHand 10 and Illustrator CS3 on a large street map. The client wants to do his own edits to the map in Illustrator (version unknown) then output it so he can show a section per page, in an atlas he plans to publish. And maintain the map himself in the future. The base map is 30 inches square, and the section excerpted on each page of his atlas will be 7 x 9 inches.
The client currently outputs (text-only) directories in MS Word, and I'm wondering if I need to tell him "Hey, you need to buy and learn InDesign (as well as Illustrator) to output your atlas" or whether there's an easy way to output a large map in multiple PDFs, a page at a time that he could use as images in Word. I am trying to keep it sensible for everyone plus affordable.
What I know about Word is you can make a picture box, and crop images placed in the picture box, but I could only get it to crop an inch or two at most. Not the comparative "limitless" picture box found in Quark (and I assume InDesign).
(In FreeHand I had a similar atlas project where I created the master map on page 1, then made a couple dozen small pages, each with a rectangle (a frame) on a top layer. I gave each frame a "lens fill" set to a magnification of 1X, and put the centerpoint over the desired part of the master map. The section of the map appeared in the frame. This worked great for the first five or ten pages -- I could make multi-page PDFs -- a sort of PDF atlas. Eventually all the processing of lines, type, and fills bogged down my Mac's (or FreeHand's) memory so the PDF export would abort mid-stream -- I ended up outputting only individual map pages or 10-12 pages per PDF).
IS THERE A WAY to do a similar, multi-page output, or a series of little PDFs, in CS3? (Or in CS4, which is in the mail)? I know the "professional" way is to place the full EPS or PDF of the map in a page layout program and crop the picture box to the desired area. That's making more and more sense.
I get the sense from what I don't find in the CS3 User Manual that the only way to output a drawing is a page at a time (and naturally only one page per file). I would feel a little nervous in CS4 making an array of multiple pages butted against each other and laying the map on top of them all (but maybe that would work). CS4 has "views" but I don't know if they correspond to output files.
There are enough pages in the finished atlas that it's not economical to make the master map into a big PDF, save multiple copies, then crop each PDF on a different section of the map (such as using Apple Preview). Enough hand-work that labor would equal the cost of the software we're tentatively too frugal to buy. (A clue as to how to proceed).
The client is on a PC (not necessarily a powerful one); has a friend with Illustrator. Is open to upgrading his equipment. I'm on a Mac G4, running Illustrator CS3 and soon CS4.
At a certain point it may be the least troublesome approach is to lay the learning curve and burden of [computer and] software acquisiiton on the client and let each piece of software do what it does best. Or say, "sorry, editable files aren't practical, but here's a good set of prints for you to mark up, and I'll do the edits and make you a set of PDFs" which is more how I usually work.
I acknowledge this was a rather long, multi-stranded question; thanks to anyone who waded through it, and I apprciate any wisdom anyone can offer. Thanks!

...continued
If this is a valued and expectedly ongoing relationship, regardless of whether the files working files are going to be in FH or AI, I would make sure that both your and his working files are both on the same application (and I would say even the same platform).
> The client currently outputs (text-only) directories in MS Word, and I'm wondering if I need to tell him "Hey, you need to buy and learn InDesign (as well as Illustrator) to output your atlas".
I would politely and briefly commend the client for considering doing his own routine edit maintenance, but caution him that such edits need to be done in the native map files, not in the "container" file of whatever program he imports the artwork into. Doing so will likely involve a not-impractical, but still-significant learning curve for him or his staff--editing the maps requires at least working familiarity with a vector drawing program--and offer your services to help him along the way as he learns. If the client is going to commit to doing his own edits, he needs to commit up-front to doing them
correctly in the native illustration files' format. Otherwise, he will be asking for trouble down the road that will eventually cost him more than the benefits of bringing the edits in-house.
>...or whether there's an easy way to output a large map in multiple PDFs, a page at a time that he could use as images in Word.
PDF exported from FH will not provide the client the editability you have suggested he needs. PDF exported from Illustrator (with AI editability included) will have the same file-size problem you've already encountered: Content of the map beyond the page is merely masked, not actually removed.
> I am trying to keep it sensible for everyone plus affordable.
I commend
you for that stance. Freelance illustrators often shoot themselves in the foot by being overly protective of
practial illustration / design work that a client rightly
needs to be able to edit. Helping the client achieve self-sufficency can be just as profitable (or more so) than requiring the client to come back to you for every little edit.
> What I know about Word...
Include in your explanation with your client: Common office- or personal-productivity software, by their nature, lack technical capability necessary and proper for commercial reproduction. It's not that they are "bad" or "amateurish" programs; they're just not designed for the purpose.
Leave open the option of re-importing the map illustrations into Word, if the client still wants to. But re-emphasize that any routine
editing of the working map files needs to be done in their native illustration program.
> (In FreeHand I had a similar atlas project where I [used Lens objects]. This worked great for the first five or ten pages...[but eventually]...bogged down....
Illustrator provides nothing like FreeHand's excellent Lens Fill feature. You can use Clipping Masks and Symobls as a cumbersome workaround, but you'll have the same file-size issues, because you are merely masking artwork, not actually removing it.
I must admit I can't remember if FH's Lens objects actually trim to their content after being Ungrouped, (and don't presently have FH on this laptop to check), but I don't think so. If they did, then Lens objects would be an alternative to the other cutting method described below.
> IS THERE A WAY to do a similar, multi-page output, or a series of little PDFs, in CS3? (Or in CS4, which is in the mail)?
I strongly suspect that artwork that
spans adjacent pages in AI CS4 will be treated the same as artworking which
extends beyond the artboard in current AI: it will be merely masked with a clipping path when exported to PDF, not trimmed. The same sloppy and data-heavy content problems will persist.
> I get the sense from what I don't find in the CS3 User Manual that the only way to output a drawing is a page at a time (and naturally only one page per file).
No. In CS3 you could:
1. Open the 30 x 30 map in AI on a 30 x 30 Artboard.
2. In the Print dialog, set up 7 x 9 page tiling, and in the Output pane, select Tile Full Pages.
3. Export a multi-page PDF.
But again, the content of the PDF pages would merely mask the artwork that extends beyond each page tile. Your PDF file(s) will still likely be much larger than necessary.
Understand, that may still be a workable option if the client places in his page layouts some
other format that actually crops the artwork. In other words, you could:
1. Get the FH native artwork into AI and perform all the cleanup necessary for the AI file to become from now on your permanent working file.
2. Use a single Artboard, and use PageTiling as described above to export the multi-page PDF.
3. Use Acrobat Professional to export the PDF pages to raster images.
4. Place the raster images in whatever program is to be used for the whole document page layouts.
> The client is on a PC (not necessarily a powerful one); has a friend with Illustrator. Is open to upgrading his equipment. I'm on a Mac G4, running Illustrator CS3 and soon CS4.
The above workflow should work fine. To be self-sufficient, it would require as a minimum:
* The client contracting with you to build a proper and clean AI version of the FH map. Depending on the actual content, that may be a straightforward file translation, or it may require alot of tedious and time-consuming cleanup after importing the FH artwork.
* The client (and/or friend) would need Illustrator and Acrobat Pro, plus whatever program he choses for the page assembly work. If he/they use AI CS4, that
may suffice for the page-assembly portion of the work, too. That's yet to be seen. One limitation that comes immediately to mind is that AICS4's long overdue multiple page capability is (unlike FH's) limited to 100 pages.
> Or say, "sorry, editable files aren't practical, but here's a good set of prints for you to mark up, and I'll do the edits and make you a set of PDFs" which is more how I usually work.
That is, of course, for you to work out with the client. It sounds like your head is screwed on straight. You are looking for the most practical and expedient solution to server your customer, not being denfensive and desirous of requiring the client to come to you for every little edit.
The decisions is going to boil down to how much actual illustration editing know-how he wants to take on. It can be a great hands-on training opportunity for you as his "on call" trainer. That arrangement would provide your client the practical autonomy he wants, with the comfort and confidence that things won't get out of whack with you as his outsource guru.
Or, the client may find that the editing tasks require more hands-on skill than he wants to take on. Consider doing a walk-through exercise to show him (and/or his staff) the skills involved in the kinds of edits they will need to make routinely.
Regardless, though, I would firmly insist that the editing needs to be always done "according to Hoyle" in the native illustration program--and
never (stress this) by means of cheezy workaounds in the page-layout program, or some intermediate program. That is
not in your client's best interest, even if it seems initially the "easy way out." It will quickly lead to the map artwork becomming an unmanageable mess.
continues...
JET

How can I convert 75 Illustrator pages into InDesign?

I'm working on a rulebook for a boardgame. Each page has vector art and text blocks intermixed to explain the rule mechanics. It now exists as 75 individual Illustrator files that need to be combined into a single PDF document.
Obstacle 1: Illustrator doesn't have enough space for 75 artboards
Obstacle 2: Using copy-paste to put each into InDesign doesn't work: Each line of text becomes an individual text block (and therefore uneditable).
Obstacle 3: Using the Place function loads each page as a uneditable picture. I'd have to open each individual page in Illustrator to make a change.
Background: The rulebook was created in a ten-year-old version of Macromedia Freehand, which will not work on my new iMac. Converting it to illustrator resulted in 75 individual .ai files
Is there a way to allow more space in Illustrator to hold more artboards? Can two exported .pdf files be merged together (so the rulebook could be done with two or more .ai files)? Or do I have to start all over in InDesign?
Is it just me, or are InDesign and Illustrator two halves of a single program, but don't work together? There has to be a way for the latest in two Adobe software titles to accomplish what Freehand could do ten years ago with just one program.

Illustrator and InDesign have completely different file formats because they were developed independently by different teams and for different users. Their way of handling text is also completely different. That's why they don't exchange data as well as you would like.
You could only copy small vector objects from Illustrator to InDesign, and it wouldn't retain their position so that wouldn't be practical. Formatted text can not be copied between the applications.
I would use the Place command. When you need to edit a page use the Edit Original command. You can Option/Alt-double-click on the placed AI file and it will open in Illustrator for you to make your changes. Save the changes and they will be automatically updated in InDesign.
Otherwise, you will have to recreate the entire project from scratch in InDesign.

How can I fit 75 pages into Illustrator?

I'm working on a rulebook for a boardgame. Each page has vector art and text blocks intermixed to explain the rule mechanics. It now exists as 75 individual Illustrator files that need to be combined into a single PDF document.
Obstacle 1: Illustrator doesn't have enough space for 75 artboards
Obstacle 2: Using copy-paste to put each into InDesign doesn't work: Each line of text becomes an individual text block (and therefore uneditable).
Obstacle 3: Using the Place function to put each .ai file into InDesign loads each page as a uneditable picture. I'd have to open each individual page in Illustrator to make a change.
Background: The rulebook was created in a ten-year-old version of Macromedia Freehand, which will not work on my new iMac. Converting it to illustrator resulted in 75 individual .ai files
Is there a way to allow more space in Illustrator to hold more artboards? Can two exported .pdf files be merged together (so the rulebook could be done with two or more .ai files)?

As a longtime FreeHand user, I can offer my 2¢.
I am able to import a multi-page FreeHand MX into Illustrator CC if I first convert the file to PDF. Then using the script: "AI Open MultiPage PDF" http://aiscripts.com/ai-scripts/openmultipagepdf/ I can import the full FreeHand PDF file and it will show up page-by-page. It takes a few minutes to do and does a decent job but ...
Beware the text format limitations between the two programs! FreeHand's block text converts to line text in AI.
The conversion does keep the vector objects editable and fills intact.
—Mark
PS: If you do want to keep FreeHand on your new Mac, read this: http://freehandforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2067

Your Favorite FreeHand Features You Would Like To See In Illustrator

I am really curious to hear about the favorite features that Freehand users think would be important additions to Illustrator.
I would also be interested in hearing why you think this feature is better than the way Illustrator handles the same task, unless you the feature just doesn't exist in Illustrator.

Just found your question, Wade. Many thanks for asking since it is very encouraging to know that Adobe is aware of Freehand (FH) users' frustrations, beyond the usual learning curve challenge. Many CS3 Illustrator (AI) features are terrific and not available in FH, but the frustration of seeing FH's many intuitive options disappear from our desk top is difficult. I'd hardily amen the words of Ken Nielsen: ... 'incorporate EVERY feature possible from Freehand.' I am quickly improving my ability to exploit AI's advantages but still get frustrated that many of FH options are not available in AI. Here are a few and will try to add others later:
PAGE SIZE TOOL: I cannot change the page size with FH's page tool. To get a page size to fit new art work I have to guess and run the risk of something not being open and not adjusting if I move my work. This is important to keep the white border from appearing in exports, although I have found that making a Clipping Path can solve this. Why not have the FH option, however, of diagonally dragging the corner of the page and fit it the size of the page to the art work?
PEN TOOL DRAWING: The pen tool does not have an option that automatically makes beautifully curved lines (which always and exactly fit the complex map borders I draw), and simply by holding down Option in FH while clicking the pen tool (dragging out in AI is nice sometimes, but I had to buy a Big Wacom tablet to do what FH does naturally).
OPEN/CLOSED PATH: I always knew in FH if my path was 'closed' or 'open.' I know fill does not depend upon this in AI but in my work to know this is very important.
SWATCH BOX: In AI I have to remember the short cut or travel around my 30" screen to change between stroke and fill. In FH it was right in the color palette where it should be. As in the case of layers below, my choice of viewing swatches (small list) does not stick and I have to choose again every time I reopen AI. Have you thought of layers for swatches for those of us who have many?
GRAPHIC STYLES: I thought AI had a 'Redefine' option in the Graphic Style but can't find it. Since AI does not allow the editing of a graphic style in the Style palette, I have to make a new style and toss the old one. FH has both of the possibilities (redefine and editing).
PASTE INSIDE/CUT CONTENTS: Paste Inside, etc. was great in FH. I understand how it works in AI but to have the old FH option, and edit inside (hold down Option) were so easy.
LAYERS: AI's great layer/sub layer/sub layer organization is especially exciting for me since my 300-400 layers in FH can be nicely 'compacted.' This has vast potential and already I cannot live without it. However, you should demonstrate how good it is to new users rather than simply imply 'you'll get used to it.' I have tons of docs with tons of layers (maps and charts).
COMPRESS ALL SUBLAYERS NEEDED: I have my layers collapsed so that my palette is very easy to use, *but* when I close the doc and bring it up again they are all open again and I have to go through and close them. Make them 'stick' so they open the way we close them, and 2) put in a way to deal with sub layers so that we can make all of a certain set of sub layers visible/invisible or locked/unlocked without affecting other layers. Yes, I can drag my mouse down the list, but when I have 600 map city names in their individual sub layers that is a bit much.
A BIT OF TROUBLESHOOTING: A graphic style fill would not change (disappear) although fill color was nothing. I even use 'Break Link to Graphic Style' and tried again. Something is wrong since the stroke changes color if I choose it manually or via a style, but the fill remains the same (one of my styles = 50% red) although I change it many all or via the Graphic Style palette. Thus it appears the the fill is stuck in one mode, or rather two since it will change color or change to gradient, but it will not disappear and always default to the 50% red. I tried quitting the program and bringing it up again, and also rebooting. No change. Finally, after long hours I tried putting the graphic on a new layer and it was okay. Thus, it appears that something can be 'caught' on a layer, in this case the fill color, or rather the fact that I could not get rid of the fill color, no matter what it was. I do have 310 layers in THE doc, most as sub layers under main layers.
Must add that AI's Opacity, Layers, and other features are terrific. I finally have gotten over my reaction in the move from FH to AI, especially since CS3 version sped up the very slow CS2 version. Again, do everything you can to get all of FH features into AI. FH is a tremendous program which relatively few people knew of and exploited. If Adobe wants to create another real success story, follow Ken Nielsen's advice (as you are doing with your question, Wade.)

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