FRM-41361 Cannot navigate out of current form in Enter-Query Mode

Hi All,
I am getting the FRM-41361 error in the bottom message area when opening a form from the function navigator. The issue does not exist when opening the form from the application homepage. The form is loaded in enter-query mode, and the enter_query command is in the WHEN-NEW-FORM-INSTANCE trigger. I have checked all triggers that fire after this point for any type of navigation but do not see any. The interesting thing is, if I put a fnd_message.set_string and fnd_message.show just before the enter_query call to debug, the issue goes away entirely.
Is it possible there are security triggers firing after the form is loaded into enter-query mode that could be causing this and that the fnd_message calls are indeed buying time for those triggers to complete before the enter_query call?
Any help/advice is appreciated. Thanks!
Dan

Yes, when I looked through the triggers I made sure to look for go_block and go_item calls as well as any calls to leave the form.

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