Fujifilm s5 - lens correction - LR thinks S5 is fullframe

Hey,
This more a bug-report than a question. I've been using the lens correction feature with my nikon d50. This summer I bought a used fujifilm s5 and found out that the lenscorrection does odd things. If I use the (aps-c) sigma 18-50 2.8 lens on the d50, the correction is fin, but when I mount the lens on my s5 and import the .raf to lightroom and try to apply correction, it overcorrectlies the picture. The edges around the middle go to pure white, much as you would expect the software to behave on a fullframe camera. Also, when I try to correct the fisheye perspective from my nikkor 10.5mm i don't get the correct result when i select that lens, I do get it (with some minimal distortion present) when i select the nikkor 16mm (fullframe) lens.
So: Lightroom 3 think the fujifilm s5 pro is a full frame camera. Where can I report this bug?
edit: found the bug report feature.

i've found the bug report form

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