Full screen preview - slow set-up

When opening a photo in full screen preview the photo appears immediately but is sharpened only after 2 seconds. This is a problem for slide-shows as here the photos are opened but not sharpened. Is there any solution?

well, this is something which is as expected , application takes 1-2 seconds to show a clear preview.

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Folder display and full screen horribly slow?

I'm currently running on Windows 7, 64 bit.
I just upgraded from PSE 8 to 10 and had the first run automatically convert my catalog in the organizer. I've turned off all auto-analysis options. Other than being extremely annoyed that I no longer have the option to look at multiple folders at once in folder view -- which is something that almost makes me want to return the software, but it was a gift -- it takes over 30 seconds to switch to or start in folder view, and about the same amount of time to bring up the full screen preview.   Within folder view, switching from "3 stars and higher" back to "show all" takes 35 seconds, and even longer to restrict the view.
I know it's not my machine; limiting the view to 3 stars in thumbnail view takes less than a second, the same with selecting tags, show all, etc. It's very snappy.
In a previous version, Elements 6 I think, I had a strange problem where having the printer set to our regular printer caused an issue like this, and the solution was to set the default to CutePDF printer or something like that. I tried that though and it didn't help. (I'll reboot and try again just in case).
In PSE 8, it's slow...but not this slow. Plus, I can use it for my main view, since I can see many folders at a time. I won't be able to do that anymore so I have to be able to go back and forth easily.
Has anyone else experienced this problem?? Any thoughts on what could be causing it?
Thanks,
Lisa

Inexcusable ? You should perhaps rather wonder how it is possible to select a dozen of photos on multiple criteria within seconds. There is no magic there, only the combination of a powerful tool : a relational database, sqlite, and the recording of data from the exif or from your tags. A complex structure and many indexes make this wonder possible. If the data is outside the database and can change... the wonder is no longer there. You are right in your hope of better structure, better indexes, better use of the organizer of the data included in the database.
Remember I stated earlier that I don't know of a way to do this in my favourite thumbnail view. I think such a feature would be useful when I am using external drives to transfer catalogs and files via backup and restore. Knowing if all pictures are on given disk or if a part of them is in another one is useful and may lead to different restore strategies. With the folder view, it is akward : you have to create a keyword and to show all subfolders including images and apply the keyword to all. Believe me, it would be very easy to include a selection of the drive in the find menu, thumbnail view. That's why I cannot blame those who prefer the folder view, the thumbnail view and the find menu are neither satisfying for beginners nor for those accustomed to complex database queries including all operators such as XOR...
Perhaps inexcusable is a bit of a harsh word. But I wrote enterprise-level software for 10 years and I know there is a lot going on underneath the hood, and "we should be grateful for what does work" doesn't hold water for me. I still maintain that releasing software when one of the core features became significantly less functional, to the point where it makes that feature unusable, is a very poor choice as far as the existing user base is concerned. (But yes, I also know the pressures that are put on the engineers that are creating the product, and that they are often not the ones that make the decisions about release dates and other things).
My knowledge of SQL is limited to about 4 sentences, but I do know software. If you have a user task that can happen in less than a second in one view of 30,000 photos and is taking 35 seconds in another view with 30 photos (because no matter what is underneath, what is important is what the user sees, and they took away my ability to see all of them, so "we have to do all this work on the whole tree is a weak excuse at best), that is a major defect, not a design trade-off.
You wrote, " If the data is outside the database and can change..." but I still don't see how PSE is reacting to changing data underneath. I changed the data, and it doesn't react at all. Are you saying that every time I restrict the file view, it checks the entire tree for changes and then doesn't actually act upon them? Also, this doesn't make sense to me, because if I hide many of my files the performance improves significantly -- that tells me it's not about the file structure of things not in my database, but about those in my database. And if it is the icons that can change, well, the icons are worthless if the view isn't functional.
Just to be clear for whoever reads this later, I'm not concerned about a one-time cost per session of switching to folder view, though, it would be a lot cleaner if it gave me a progress bar instead of making my OS pop-up "Photoshop Organizer is not responding" boxes. I withdraw my comment about "view full screen" because I can see that there is a workaround, and that was in part user error (though partially also a design choice, since most of the effort of processing my files could be postponed until I was sitting and staring at the first 30, which is how most photo preview software handles it).
What I am most concerned about is the unusability of folder view for any sort of search or other operations (even stacking three photos in folder view takes *forever*). How can that not be a defect? Not only that, folder view is buggy -- several times it shows me the wrong photos for a folder (says the folder is A but the pictures are from folder X) and right now, it's telling me I have no zero star photos in any of my directories, when I know I do. Then when I clicked Show All, it's not showing any of my pictures at all.   ("Show all" doesn't seem to work at all in folder view at all).
If it were a one-time-per-session delay (to account for scanning the file system for changes), but then I could reasonably go back and forth between 2-stars and no-stars and all, stack my photos, rename them, move them from one folder to another, re-arrange all my folders, then that would even be good enough. Take the hit of switching to folder view, and then stay in it for a while. Learn not to go back and forth.   But it doesn't make sense to have a view from which the user cannot perform any tasks on their photos.
I think I will reclaim the word, "inexcusable" here, sorry     I'll find ways to work around it, though.
Regarding the feature of selecting all files on a drive...I thought you had said there was a way from folder view to select all the files on a particular drive (i.e, something that it can do that thumbnail view cannot). Did I misunderstand? If that is true, how does one do it?
I'll end with my previous statement, that I'm available for free beta testing if any of the product engineers would like to work on this issue . I really am a huge fan of the software, which is why I'm so passionate about this topic.
Lisa

Full screen preview and slideshow are blurry / fuzzy

Hi folks-
I just upgraded from CS2 to CS4, in part to improve efficiency of selecting photos - I wanted the zoom and loupe features. Unfortunately a very basic function has been compromised and I'm hoping there's a solution: In both full-screen preview and slideshow the full-screen image is notably blurry. This is a problem for two reasons: 1. I can't judge pictures accurately by just flipping through them in full-screen mode (without zooming to 100% to see if they are well-focused). 2. I can't use Slideshow for, well, slideshows. I've had to resort to keeping another app (like Windows Picture Viewer) open just to be able to quickly flip through and evaluate images full-screen or to show slideshows.
I've tried setting all the options related to image quality (they mostly have to do with caching thumbnails and speeding 100% viewing); I've tried purging the cache files. Nothing helps.
Any ideas? Thanks!

It seems to me that there is something wrong with it.
I am trying Bridge CS4 as a viewer for my JPEG files.
I also noticed that the previews were fuzzy. I activated the high-quality previews as well as the option to generate the previews at screen size.
Here's what I noticed. I went to check out a specific photo that is quite sharp with a number of straight lines, angles, details, where it's very easy to detect a lack of sharpness. That photo immediately looked fuzzy to me, which didn't jive with my memory of it. I quickly opened it in other viewers, which displayed it as intended with all the expected sharpness.
So, I went through the settings to see where the problem could be and I immediately thought of checking the box to get software previews instead of hardware, restarted the app, purged the cache, tried again. There my photo had recovered its sharpness, or at least most of it. I thought I found the culprit, but not quite.
I went to browse other photos and found one in particular with a lot of fine detail (hair) and that photo also didn't display all the sharpness that it should have (I was still using software mode). The difference was very slight and to make sure of it it required A/B comparison between Bridge and PS, but there was a difference.
Now I tried the opposite. I went back to hardware rendering mode, restarted, purged the cache, tried again. That second photo looked alright in preview, but the previous photo looked fuzzy again.
So, it doesn't work the same way for each photo...
What's the main difference between the first photo, obviously fuzzy in hardware mode, and the second one, alright in hardware mode but slightly fuzzier in software? The ratio. The first one is a vertical photo, the second one is horizontal (close to square).
I quickly checked other vertical photos and they showed the same behavior...
Now staying in hardware mode, I noticed something else. When I preview the vertical photo and click on it, or double click, it quickly jumps, switching between 2 versions of the photo: the one displayed originally (fuzzy) and another one, with a very slightly different size, which is sharp. During that manipulation it also briefly displays "100%" at the top of the screen. It doesn't stick when you click and immediately switches back, so it looks like a glitch.
Now in software mode, I tried the same, this time you can click once on the photo (which is originally displayed *almost* sharp). When you click once, it displays "100%" but also displays a very slightly smaller version that is clearly fuzzy. Clicking again goes back to the other, less fuzzy one, but doesn't display "100%" this time.
Doing the same test on horizontal photos shows no change that I can see.
So, it seems to me that in the preview mode, Bridge has trouble displaying some photos (vertical ones?) in their actual resolution (100%)
and since there is a slight resizing going on, it brings fuzziness. This doesn't explain the very slight fuzziness seen on horizontal photos in software mode.
Now I'll mention, for those still awake, that I saw no fuzziness on the same vertical photos when I go to Review Mode with *hardware* rendering. Photos there are sharp. Now if I go to the review mode with software rendering enabled, vertical photos are not 100% sharp (akin to the small difference I mentioned earlier while in software mode), while they are sharper in preview.
To sum up, it seems that the only configuration that gives me consistently 100% sharp (=as they were meant to be after post-processing) photos no matter what their orientation, is when I stay in hardware rendering mode and use the Review Mode, instead of preview.
This all really smells like a bug.
For info, I am using Windows 7 and an ATI HD4850 card, and this only about processed JPEG files, not RAW files.
Perhaps the preview is really meant as a quick preview and not a tool to view final photos at 100% accuracy...

Full screen preview drops frames

Hi all,
A continuation of the thread I opened here (with hardware specs for information):
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/657008?tstart=0
Whilst I resolved the tearing issue secribed in the previous thread I still can't get smooth playback on the third full screen preview display and I'd like some basic advice as to what I could do:
A couple of things I have tried - firstly I tried a basic sequence with a spinning graphic (in order to rule out any issues with disk/network access), and then also tried two screens rather than three (so only one graphic card was in operation), a 60p/30p project with screens set to 60Hz and a 50p/25p project with screens set to 50Hz.
All to no avail - the full screen preview drops frames, especially with 50p content - 25p is better but every 20 seconds or so frames are dropped. Audio is always fine, regardless of the source, BTW.
As a reminder, this is a 12 core i7 with 2 x Quadro FX3800, all unnecessary services disabled, 12Gb RAM, CS5 5.0.3, latest WHQL Nvidia drivers.
Not sure if 5.5 improves this in any regard as I'm still waiting for my licence key.
Video playback outside of premiere is perfect, 1080p50 plays fine full screen on any display through windows media player/VLC.
Any suggestions please - again I wonder if a Blackmagic Intensity or similar would help?
Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Could anybody have a go a reproducing the issue (a simple spinning or sliding jpg demonstates the issue easily and simply)
Thanks all
Sacha Goodwin.

There exist no 12 core i7's. The max is hexa-core, but in your previous thread you said Xeon X5670. So what is it?
Well spotted, my bad - it is indeed 2 x hexa-core X5670's - which of course is 12 cores in total.
I still suspect your Editshare NAS.
I'd say unlikely since - we've replaced it with something else, also:
I tried a basic sequence with a spinning graphic (in order to rule out any issues with disk/network access)
and at any rate I tried it as a local project on local disks and it made no difference.
For graphic read plain color matte and basic SD res JPG (same results with either)
What happens when you increase memory to 24 GB?
No idea as I don't have access to any - strikes me as odd though to think anyone would need 24Gb or RAM just to display a rotating still smoothly.
Premiere is showing 300Mb of RAM, total RAM in use when everything is loaded and running is 3Gb, 9Gb free sitting there twiddling it's virtual thumbs.
BTW I should also mention that this happens even on SD projects, not just HD ones. Also watching the task manager shows virtually CPU usage, no disk and no network access during playback (as I would expect). No peaks in any graphs correllating with the dropped frames. Also enabling/disabling MPE Hardware assist makes no difference.
Sacha.

Elements 10 organizer Full Screen Previews

Hello, i have a question to ask about the full screen previews of very big photos in size (2mb and above 3000k + res or maybe even smaller) on 15.6 Inch laptop (not quite sure if it is related to my own screen size 1366x768 - i think it's not)
You see, if i go normaly into a folder and start a full screen preview of those same pictures i get them in what i think is a process of puting some AA to the picture so that even on a small screen i don't get the jaggies on the edges and overall bad quality. Quite the irony since the picture is in extremely good quality but viewed on a small res screen. Now i might be wrong about the AA but never mind i think you get the point what im talking about.
The problem is in elements organizer if i enter the full screen preview big photos have those jaggies and are not applied with the AA i talked about earlier. A Funny thing is that when im not in the full preview the very same photos are in very good quality. Can i transfer that process to the full preview ? I really don't want to view my photos in windows default preview. Also if in full screen i try to zoom those pictures i get some nice choopy slowdowns on my i3-370M 2,4GHz, 4GB ram DDR3 and AMD 6550M HD in Win7 64 bit. Strange since i don't have those in windows default but maybe that related to all the processing you can apply to the picture when viewing it in organizer so it's not a big deal.
To put it simple is there any option so that i can view my albums in organizer (full screen) with the quality of a normal preview. Thanks very much.

Thanks for a quick answer but that doesn't work for me. I see the actual shortcut to the full screen view and edit is F11. I used mouse or a button earlier. If i use F11 on one photo or more it's still the same image quality. I did a little comparision and even in the normal preview there is a difference with the windows normal preview. Let me show you i did 2 screenshoots:
This is the Elements Organizer 10 Preview :
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1997/elementspreview.png
This is the Windows Preview:
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5016/windowspreview.png
You see how the second picture is more blured than the first one. Now i know that for editing the actual pixels and sharper more crisp image is better, but for viewing (showing albums to my family ) is more better if blured and the picture looks great no matter it's size. Can this be made possible within the Elements Organizer preferences. I did set preview size to maximum which for me is 1280x960 (max allowed). Don't know what else i can do. If at the end it can't be made different, il need to use the default windows
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Hi,
Maybe someone can help.
I have created a document in Acrobat Pro 8 that automatically opens in Full Screen Preview for the user. I want to create a button (link) on the title page which will allow the user to go back to normal view. In the links menu you can set to Open Full Screen preview but not get out of it... The only alternative that I have found is to include the copy on the title page "press esc to exit"
Is there any alternative to this????
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Not sure why you mention 'preview'..
However, the 'fullscreen' menu item that you can set from a button is a 'toggle', so if you have a fullscreen button on a document that has fullscreen as the open option, clicking the button will take you to normal view.
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Jpeg editing and problem full screen preview

Hello,
I am editting some jpegs together to music and in order for my photos to stay sharp, in sequence settings i have kept the compressor and pixel aspect ratio the same as the images when i look at them in item properties.
So they are compressed by photo jpeg, square and none field dominance.
The problem is that when i drop new photos into the timeline, they now need to be rendered and im not sure why?
Also, when i full screen preview on my imac monitor, you can hear the audio but cant see any images until you pause the movie and then the place where you have paused is shown.
Can anyone please help???
Regards,
Michael

michael gibson wrote:
Hello, i change the compressor from photo jpeg to dv pal as didnt have prores lt. All frame rates and dimensions are the same but i dont really understand field dominance and what progressive means?
No ProRes? What version are you using? Anyways, using DV might get you some slight problems as it's not exactly square pixels ... but it should be negligible.
Field dominance tells you which field (a "half frame") is displayed first when playing back interlaced media. Interlaced video does not have full frames but each frame is composed of two fields, each of which has half of the horizontal lines of the full frame. DV's field dominance is upper, all the other interlaced formats are lower field first. If you set the field dominance to "none" in FCP you get a progressive sequence, meaning you'll have full frames.
You're saying that you changed to DV PAL ... are you in PAL Land? Also you didn't say what your final output will be ... File based? DVD? Web? If there is only one output you should adjust your sequence settings for that.
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Soft images in Bridge full screen preview

This has seemed to plague Bridge for a couple of years now… thought that the CS6 update would fix it. This is reproducible on a variety of Macs with and without external displays, all running the latest OS and Adobe updates.
With 100% previews selected in the preferences and a recently purged cache, browse to a directory of images.
Preview the first image by selecting it and pressing the space bar:
Arrow to the right to preview the second image in the folder. Then arrow left to review the original image:
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Welcome to my world. If you search a bit, you should find a few discussions on related topics.
Your problem sounds like something I see intermittently. Occasionally, Bridge seems incapable of generating a decent full-screen preview. I generally work around this by purging the folder's cache and/or restarting Bridge.
CS6's Bridge has been reworked quite a lot. It's now 64-bit, and the internal database has been changed to a different system. However, I still see Bridge generating thumbnails and previews unnecessarily, which suggests to me that more work needs to be done.
One thing I learned recently is that Bridge uses the graphcs hardware to generate previews, so it may be worth trying the Use Software Rendering setting in Preferences (if there is one on CS6 for Mac), to see if it makes any difference. If it did, you may have an issue with your graphics cards and/or software and/or settings.

BROKEN: FCP goes to full screen preview no matter what I click on!

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What the heck is going on?

Nice--thank you! I have never touched FCP, but I am sitting here providing telephone support for a computer I can't see or touch... argh! And, my friend, is not that computer literate at times so you know how that goes when they are clicking on something completely different or describing things wrong.
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Reinstall time, if I'm not mistaken. Don't know if Compressor can be reinstalled separately from FCP, but he says FCP is like a 3 hour job. I told him if he goes that far to upgrade to FCS 2 and Compressor 3 and install the latest.
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Thanks Yammer, but the same issue holds. The picture appears, but no filename (or rating) until you assign a rating (by hitting the numeric "9", for instance), and then the filename and rating remain as you view other pictures.
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windows 7 64bit , bridge cs6
well i load 20mp or 22mp pixel photos , raw and jpg
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but in fit to screen they look bad , i mean with no crips , no details
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mantralightroom wrote:
why is it this option disabled? do the generate monitor sized previews increase a lot the cache a lot!
Potentially, yes. The standard Preview is 1024 pixels, longest size. Some people (like Omke) have displays 2560 pixels longest side, potentially increasing file size by over 500%.

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I have spend evenings and evenings to create the content of a project.
After dealing with error -108 and extreme poor quality in full screen preview and in exported movies (extreme stuttering) I decided to install my iMac new again.
The error -108 disappeared, but the extreme stuttering still remained in full screen preview and in exported movies.
If I make the preview screen in the iMovie browser as big as possible there is nothing to see of any stuttering.
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mantralightroom wrote:
why is it this option disabled? do the generate monitor sized previews increase a lot the cache a lot!
Potentially, yes. The standard Preview is 1024 pixels, longest size. Some people (like Omke) have displays 2560 pixels longest side, potentially increasing file size by over 500%.

Full screen preview in AE CS6

Hi everyone,
I'm testing the CS6 trial right now before to purchase, and I'm wondering how can I get Full Screen preview on a monitor.
I just swithed to Lion on a Mac Pro, with 2 graphic cards. I have 2 monitors for my user interface, and I have a great third monitor with Color Space management feature. This configuration was working last week with Snow Leopard and CS5.5, but not anymore with Lion and CS6.
Why?
What I was doing: I was diging into Preferences/Video Preview, I was selecting Computer Monitor Only, and from there, in the Output Mode I was able to select my monitor.
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May simply be a compatibility issue with whatever graphics card you are using and/or Apple's Cinema Desktop stuff in a more general sense... pöerhaps Dave and Rick can shed some light on this. I'm not a Mac guy, after all...
Mylenium

Full screen preview image quality?

I've recently taken up the 'Creative Cloud plan for Photoshop customers' and am getting to grips with Lightroom for the first time; previously I've used CS6 and Elements 9 & 11.
However, I have a problem with the quality of full screen previews of images on my secondary monitor, similar to the problem I encountered with Elements 11, discussed in another thread here: http://forums.adobe.com/message/5358611#5358611 (the full screen preview whilst OK was not as sharp with PSE 11 as with PSE 9 due to a different algorhythm used the produce the preview quicker)
I also use FastStone viewer & that too renders the full screen previews much sharper. It seems that with Lightroom too, full screen previews are just not that sharp - OK but not bitingly sharp. I've even noticed that when opening an image for editing in LR, it doesn't look as sharp as if openined in Photoshop CS6 or CC.
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Hi,
The way full screen slideshow is currently implemented Muse is resampling the hero images to the size they are in Design view. For most cases that will work fine, but there's no easy way to force a higher resolution image to be output. The only workaround that comes to mind would be to replace the image after publish/upload/export.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Aish

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