Funds center and commetment item
Good evening!
We are HCM consultants. We were asked by our FI department to conduct a
post run for two personnel numbers in development system.
After the post run, the documents consider errors which say, for
example, that "in position 00001 21 993-05 commitment item was not
determined". 21 is a company code, 993-05 is a G/L account. This error
occurs for numerous accounts. Our FI says that they have customized
everything for 21 company code and have put commitment items for every
G/L account. They ask whether it is possible to customize fields for
funds center and commitment item in HCM, IT0015 where we determine
account assignment.
In the SAP course IPS910 they found a passage about HCM and FI
integration where is said that "Funds center and Fund can be determined
for org. unit/position/personnel. In addition to funds center and fund
there can be determind also a commitment item for info-types
considering account assignmet (0014,0015,2001-2005,2010)".
We in HCM guess that there is something wrong with FI customizing, 'cos
in HCM it's impossible to activate those fields, or even if it
possible - it's wrong.
The question is - is it possible to add fields for funds center in HCM
(IT0015) or it's not worth doing?
Best regards,
Eldar
Steps for Reconstruction
1. In HCM all the entris are standard. We made entries in IT0015,
started payroll and posting.
2. FI made their customizing for 21 company code.
Hello Eldar,
I will provide you some hints below.
1) To have the integration between PSM-FM and HCM, in PSM side you should check:
SPRO (IMG)
Public Sector Management
Funds Management Government
Actual and Commitment Update/Integration
Integration
Integration with Human Resources (HR)
Please check all the sub-menus there and the documentation available in from of each link. It is very good and provides some links for all the customizings that needs to be done.
2) Check also the configuration as it is described in the enclosed note 766613. It is related to view V_T588N.
3) If Funds Management and Controlling are updated in an integrated way such that the cost center is always the leading account assignment and the fund center is derived, the HR must not (and does not) support the maintenance of derived information (such as fund center). Thus there are the following three possible scenarios:
- Funds Management (FM) is not active. -> HR doesn't show Fund Center
- FM is active but without CO-Integration-> HR shows Fund Center
- FM is active with CO Integration -> HR doesn't show Fund Center
With CO Integration turned on, the derivation functionality is utilized to determine the Fund Center in HR. However, if you are looking for manual input in the FC field (and subsequent saving of this value on
the database), all I can provide would be a modification to inform HR that the FC field is active.
To perform that, you would need to make the following coding change to give HR the indication that the field should be displayed and edited:
FUNCTION FM_DC_GET_ACTIVE_DIMENSIONS:
if ( CO-FM-Integration is on )
IF ( l_f_fm01-co_integration = con_on ). < Delete
IF ( l_f_fm01-co_integration = con_on AND < Insert
NOT l_f_fm01-co_int_start_hr IS INITIAL ). < Insert
IF ( l_f_fm01-co_integration = con_on AND
You will need to perform the necessary testing in HR to ensure that it is functioning as intended as I am unsure of the differences in the HR functionality between 46C and ECC 600.
These scenarios can be maintained with time dependence (active from-dates): There can be a period for the first, a second time interval for the second and a third time interval for the last scenario.
4) Please check if you have implemented note 918775. It should be present in your system
5) Please check if you have implemented note 755796. It should be present in your system
6) Please check also the note 701933.
I hope I could help you
Let me know your comments if I am going in the wrong direction.
Best Regards,
Vanessa.
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Edited by: k.r.girija devi devi on Nov 13, 2009 5:14 AM -
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Kindly explain the process flow for forming the link between WBS element and the funds center:
1. should we assign the WBS to the funds center and commit. item combination at the time of creation of PR
2. Is there single step, which assign all the WBS elements in the project, that can be assigned to the funds center and commit. item
3. Can we assign the budget to Fuds center + commit. item + WBS element combination.
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srikrishnaHi srikrishna,
1. To assign fund center to WBS. First you should create the fund center (FM2i). Then assign the fund center to WBS (FRC7). Assign commitment to fund center (FM9K). Then generate budget structure (FMG5).
2. There's a way to simplify the fund center assignment to WBS, it's by creating WBS Element group for all WBS in that project (CJSG). Create WBS Group before assigning fund center to WBS (FRC7), then you don't have to assign the fund center to WBS one by one, instead just assign it to the WBS Group.
While, I'm not really clear about the the 3rd question.
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I followed the steps as per the note, Dump Error due to Fund Management module activation now the dump error is gone, but I am getting one more error message while posting any transaction.
For example- I am posting a Vendor Invoice in F-02.
I am entering Cost Center in Expense Line. But system is showing error message for Vendor Line, that is Vendor A/C.
Error Message:
No funds center entered/derived in item 00001 (TY01/50101400/)
Message no. FI313
Diagnosis
In company code (&2) the component Funds Management is active. This requires the entries or the derivation of a funds center.
You can use the following elements to derive the funds center: company code TY01/ account 50101400 or CO object .
Procedure
Enter a funds center or ensure that the funds center can be derived from the possible assignments by:
assigning a funds center in the commitment items- master record or maintaining the assigning of a funds center to the CO object.
Note***GL A/C 50101400 is S.Creditors account. Now, I am not understanding why system needs Fund Center for S.Creditors in Vendor Line while posting Vendor Invoice. We have assigned Statistical Commitment Item in S.Creditor GL and hence there is no Fund Center assigned to it.
SCN names removed/
Message was edited by: Eli KlovskiSorry for that. Its noted.
Just for some clarification. Fund Center and Commitment Items are mandatory fields, but the issue I am facing is completely different.
I checked with FMDERIVE in my system and checked the pattern for Fund Centers and Commitment Items created. Only P/L items and Cost Centers are created as Fund Centers and Commitments Items.
Also, the S.Creditors GL is not a Cost Element, hence there is no link to Commitment Item- FMRULES.
1. Even though, the S.Creditors has been assigned with Commitment 1.
Commitment Item-1 Master Conditions as below:
Financial trans.-30
Commitment Item Category- 3
Is this conditions correct?
2. We have Fund Center- Dummy as well.
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