Gapless Playback in Shuffle Songs Mode

I looked for an answer but haven't had any luck so I apologize in advance if this has already been answered elsewhere.
Is is possible for the gapless songs to play on a 5G iPod when you have the shuffle songs mode set to on? Even in iTunes if it is set to shuffle songs the gapless playback doesn't seem to work. I have tried the get info and set the album as gapless and everything. Any ideas would be appreciated.
PowerBook 17 1.5Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.6) 1 GB DDR SDRAM
PowerBook 17 1.5Ghz   Mac OS X (10.4.8)   1 GB DDR SDRAM

Yeah, but shuffle albums may start off in the middle
of an album and the song may be in the middle of 3-4
continuous songs.
Still...
Interesting, I thought if you shuffled albums it would start from the beginning of the album and play through. i have to admit, I've never played my music this way.
As for your suggestion, what about Pink Floyd - Dark
Side of the Moon?
If gapless songs were kept together while Shuffle
songs is on, you would hear some randon songs and
then a whole album, then more random songs?
Exactly, Dark Side of the Moon is meant to be played together but most albums have maybe two tracks that are designed for back to back playing. I was just hoping to have random songs play but for example, "Boston's Third Stage" album, "The Launch", and "Cool The Engines", are supposed to play together like one song. So in other words have songs shuffle but if they are intended to play back to back that would happen and then shuffle would resume until the next such tracks come up. Maybe I'm just asking for too much.

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    Path:            /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunes
    Identifier:      com.apple.iTunes
    Version:         10.6 (10.6)
    Build Info:      iTunes-10604001~1
    Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)
    Parent Process:  launchd [114]
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    Report Version:  9
    Interval Since Last Report:          3852 sec
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    Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  1392 sec
    Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   16
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    -->
        __TEXT                 000000010a479000-000000010b619000 [ 17.6M] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunes
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