General Cost Object

Hi there,
Anyone familiar with the General Cost Object out there please? (referring to KKC1 - under "Intangible Goods and Services" from the SAP menu.
*Background*
I am looking to a further dimension (cost object) to breakdown/attribute costs; a cost is now attributed at a GL account, a cost center and an internal order; for some reason i need to have a further cost objective; i found the "general cost objective" and thought of them as a solution altought they are indicated for "intangible goods and services" which is not my case...
*So far..*
I have created cost object with Tcode KKC1, quite straightforward and posted a journal to a GL account / Cost center / Cost Object (I left to one side the internal order for the time being)
*Issue 1*
- the KKC1 is asking for a Profit Center as part of the Cost Object master data (mandatory field);
Question: can this field be customisable in the IMG and be left blak? we have a 1 to 1 association betwen CC and PC, the same cost object should be used on many CC;
*Issue 2*
When I try to build the report in report painter to extract the info from the journal using Table CCSS, the 3 caracteristics ( GL account, Cost Center, Cost Object ) are not available whithin the same report; I can only extract GL and Cost Center or Cost center and Cost Objct; same problem using KSB1 ( single posting for cost center ) or KKCS (single posting for cost object)
*Question*: is there a table or some setting i am missing in creating a report painter to extract simulaneously values by GL, Cost Center and Cost Object?
*General Question*
Is there any other "object of CO" i can use to achieve the goal highlithed above?
TA!
Domenico

HI,
question 1: if the cost object is used for different cost center/profit centers, assign the general profti-center to this cost object (or Dummy PRCTR). Even if its possible to leave it "blank" it does not solve your problem.
question 2: don't know, but sounds not so easy...
question 3 (general question): No
I used cost objects once for the same reason you are describing it and it was helpful, but I never had the issue with report painter...
BR Christian

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