General Eclipse Question (Not a NetBeans vs Eclipse Thread!)

I am going to play around with Vaadin, and I am going to use Eclipse and the Vaadin plugin for this play.
In reading the Book of Vaadin, the author actually recommend downloading Eclipse, unZIPping it, and running it from that unZIPped archive instead of "installing" it. The author mentions more control and less aggravation in the long run.
Now, I don't use Eclipse much at all (I use NetBeans usually). What I have done in the past with BOTH NetBeans and Eclipse is:
1) Install from repo, run as my account for work, run as root to do updates and install plugins.
2) Install from repo, run as my account for work AND plugin installs/updates.
I prefer #2 as it's less of an issue to just "blow away" all the plugins and start again if I need to.
My bottom-line question is: "Does running Eclipse from my 'local' /home/xxx without actually 'installing' it really make that much difference compared to #2 above?"
I'm hoping someone that has more experience with this can render an opinion. Also, if any of you have experience with Vaadin, do you have any tips for a noob?!?

One consideration with running Eclipse from a local unzipped install is being able to create multiple instances, with a different mix plugins. I keep three core versions going for Java, Python, and Android development. I've found some plugins do not always play well with others in Eclipse. At least that was my experience with Ganymede and Helios. My Java instance is loaded up with a bunch of enterprise junk, like JBoss Drools and Spring plugins, so it can sometimes get bogged down at start up when connecting to remote resources over VPN.
I've found that limiting the number of plugins I keep in any instance I use is helpful in keeping it stable. Note that you'll also need separate workspaces for each instance. Also, to keep your sanity, tarball a backup before installing or updating any plugins. Probably not for everyone, but it works for me.

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NetBeans or Eclipse: Which is better for GUI development ?

I am relatively new with JAVA, came from embedded software domain mostly in C.
My interest is to learn and develop the GUI applications using Swing.
I am currently in a process of evaluating the IDEs, Eclipse and NetBeans on Linux desktop environment (SuSE 10.3).
My primary findings found that, NetBeans is better equipped with GUI development while Eclipse needs to have a plugin installed.
For GUI development, I found that few of my fellow Java developer friends have mixed feelings about these two wonderful IDEs, in summary here are the comments:
1) Developing GUI is better without any assistance from built in designers of IDEs (e.g. NetBeans or Visual Swing of Eclipse). Because, they put extra 'garbage" codes which are very much IDE specific.
2) GUI development in NetBeans is faster and more productive than Eclipse
3) Visual Swing for Eclipse is not a matured product and it is far inferior than NetBeans' capabaility
Now I ask a question, what is the best practice to adopt for starting the GUI development ? NetBeans or Eclispse or IDE-less development ?
Thanks.

atomodachi wrote:
Now I ask a question, what is the best practice to adopt for starting the GUI development ?
NetBeansThis is my preference for IDE's. Please note that as I stated that is my preference. There isn't any best, some are clearly better than others for one reason or another, but once again, that boils down to personal preference.
EclispseNot my preference.
IDE-less development ?IMO: that is just silly. Unless you just enjoy tons of typing; why would you ever embark on doing something without a tool to speed up the process. Now that is not to say that in using your IDE you should start out by just dragging and dropping up a storm and merrily running down the road in ignorance until you hit a rough spot and have things dramatically pointed out that you've really not a clue about what is happening. Use the IDE, but learn how to do the manual processes along with it. That means that sometimes you'll not drag and drop to build your GUI, you'll actually code the entire thing. And you really should learn to do things command-line like compile. Do yourself a really big favor too, learn the debugger. The integrated debuggers is, perhaps, one of the best inventions in productivity tools that has as of yet been invented for developers.
In any case, have fun... choose what you like, it really does come down to personal preference. I've worked in several shops over the years and most have come to the conclusion that if you can get the work done, and have projects that others can use, then to each their own preferences. The discussion rages on for and against each of the systems that you have mention--each have valid arguments--it boils down to what do you want and like.

NetBeans or Eclipse

Hi All,
Sorry for my English.....
I want to write a Java application program that interacts with the user via GUI components and will have graphics (2D and maybe 3D - with Java3D of course) and maybe samll database. I wonder what is the best
and robust environment for Java application programming - NetBeans or Eclipse?
Thank you in advance

This type of question is asked daily on here and the answer is always the same.
If you already know NetBeans then stick with NetBeans. If you know Eclipse then use Eclipse. If you know not much about either then use the one whose name you like better. If all else fails throw darts at a board with their names on it and see which one wins.

A question regarding Java project in ECLIPSE IDE

A question regarding eclipse.
No offence meant.
I have added a jar file to the current project in its build path.
This executes the concerned class file which is in the jar file.
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A question regarding eclipse.
No offence meant.People are not usually offended by Eclipse.
I have added a jar file to the current project in its
build path.
This executes the concerned class file which is in
the jar file.
If I remove the jar file from the build path and run
the project,
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I tried building a clean project and running it,but
still executes the jar file and the class.
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Hi Ivar, thanks for your reply.
Actually both Netbeans and Eclipse provide a C/C++ plug-in, so you can develop the C side as well. I'm using it in Eclipse. There is a C Ant task also, so you can build the C and Java together. (Ideally, we want to be able to step, in the source level debugger, from the java into the C native method, but I don't believe that has been worked out in any IDE.) I am working with Eclipse now, and you can edit java in the java perspective, click a C file, and automatically switch to the C perspective. That seems to work pretty well. On the other hand, Netbeans is a Sun sponsored project, and we are on Solaris, so maybe Netbeans has some platform dependent goodies that might tip the balance.
You and I both know that while a tool may have a capability, that does not mean it does the job well. Somebody else must be doing the same thing that I am, so I'm looking to learn from the experience of others who are farther into the process. Maybe I can avoid having to get deeply into one tool, only to find I should have used another.

Netbeans Vs Eclipse .which one is best ?

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My project work related to SNMP protocol. In my project I need to get and set data in a remote wireless device. for this , I want to know which one IDE (netbeans or eclipse) shall i use for my project.
now I am working in netbeans. but, the problem is it may strucking up some times and it takes some time while getting data and also at that time it struck.
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I use netbeans at work, I am currently using the
latest release. I find it quite slow, and it hangs
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seconds and 2 minutes.
One of my colleagues is now using eclipse as he was
having similar problems with netbeans, and I am
thinking of changing to eclipse.
I will wait until I get a ram upgrade for my work
machine though, as this could be the reason I am
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Now in NetBeans everything compiles fine so I don'n know why it does not compile using Eclipse. Also, everything so far is autogenerated.
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Why the ScrollDemo sample can not be debugged in Eclipse?

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Last edited by danilo (2011-12-02 15:27:20)

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