GTX 470 AND MSI Eclipse SLI

hi,
I got a msi eclipse sli  mobo and i going to upgrade my sapphire hd 4870 512mb to a gtx 470.
but why should i buy an msi gtx 470, does the card make a special connection with the mobo so it performs better than when i would put in an EVGA card ??

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but why should i buy an msi gtx 470
Probably because it is cool to have as much MSI Components in the system as possible (it is a corporate identity kind of thing). 
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does the card make a special connection with the mobo
Not really.
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so it performs better than when i would put in an EVGA card
The performance depends on the cards specs.  If the MSI Version has better specifications (more memory, slightly overclocked etc.), it may perform better than the EVGA Card.  If the cards are identical there is no reason to believe that one would be faster then the other.

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    Second image settings (in Bios): 9-9-9-24 (1T), Memory Ratio 1600Mhz - Uncore Ratio 3200Mhz, DRAM Voltage 1.65V, Spead Spectrum Disasbled. FAILS MEMTEST
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  • PC shuts down or reboots spontaneously (MSI Eclipse SLI)

    Starting a new thread to avoid totally hijacking another thread talking about almost the same symptoms here.
    My original post:
    Quote from: Smoke on 05-April-09, 12:43:21
    I get this same situation.. except the event viewer doesnt state anything.
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    I get the same message as the original poster as well, it is very annoying as it often happens in the middle of doing something.
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    What can I do?
    The following replies:
    Quote from: AaronYuri on 05-April-09, 12:56:57
    That's way too high, even for 100% load.  Reinstall the heatsink.
    Quote from: Smoke on 05-April-09, 20:46:53
    It is? I found another thread on this forum where it was mentioned that intel and msi said the IOH runs hot and to expect temps up to 100C. How do I go about changing the manufacturers heatsink on a board? Ive never done that before and cant find any procedural help thru google...
    Ive been able to replicate the issue by running ram up to high usage. When I get above 98% ram allocation, I spontaneously reboot. So It could be a ram issue as well. Of would that be something possible IOH related as well?
    Quote from: NovJoe on 05-April-09, 23:37:33
    smoke,
    Can you list out your full system spec and PSU spec?
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    1500w thermaltake psu
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    For bios settings Ive got the optimised defaults with spread spectrum off and turbo boost on. Once its table then I will OC, but for now its not stable at the baseline yet.
    Temp info:
    IOH temps are as I said, around 80 at startup but rise to at least 87 under load, but not really much further that Ive seen.
    CPU temps are very low with the dual-fan TRUE 120 heatsink. I havet seen it go above 35C with a reasonably heavy processing load. Usually sits about 0-2C above ambient at most when idle.
    System temps get to about 40 under load, or around 27-35 under regular usage, but Im not quite sure what thats measuring the temp of on the board.
    The issue is very frustrating but somewhat intermittent - I can go two days without a crash but then get several in a row. I wasnt previously paying attention to my usage at the time tho so I dont remember what I was doing when it crashed that I wasnt doing when it was fine. I have been able to replicate the crash/reboot/shutdown symptom by running multiple memory intensive apps and loading the ram up to just on the 2.99gb mark (the most winxp 32 bit will 'see') and it goes down. No blue screen though.. its a hardware issue not software I am pretty sure.
    [edit] Updated the ram part number to be correct.

    ok, should I label this possibly as solved?
    I followed MSI's advice and checked through on drivers. Ive got totally up to date drivers, but nvidia just put out a .5  driver update (i mean, its increased the driver version by .50) and so I updated to that. I still got a sft reboot on testing, so no real joy.
    THEN, I did the big change MSI asked me to do - Ive successfully brought my system up to bios 1.5B3 and pow, massive improvements all round!
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    The previous methods which 100% of the time would replicate the soft reboot of the system now no longer do so at all (i.e. 0% of the time yet) and for that matter I have not been able to get the box to fall over AT ALL since the new bios.
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    2) Thanks for the link Aaron. I did end up using the USB flash method from this forum. Worked perfectly. Chalk up another success story!
    3) I did try to swap out the ssd last night, but the system kept soft rebooting while installing the OS on the spin drive. SO I gave up. Seems the ssd isnt a drawback under the new bios tho (assuming it even was a cause earlier).
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  • Is there a big difference between MSI K8N SLI and MSI K8N SLI Platinum motherboa

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  • MSI Eclipse SLI don't detect X-FI on vista x64 sp2, but XP detect it right

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  • Does MSI ECLIPSE SLI SUPPORT

    Hi
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    i want to know is my mobo MSI ELCIPSE SLI support intel new processer Corei7 2600K or not?
    No. The i7 2xxx series are 1155 socket & the X58's are 1366.

  • MOVED: SLI won't stay available on MSI Eclipse SLI mobo with 2 EVGA GTX 280s

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  • MSI Eclipse SLI and OCZ Reaper 1866MHz memory OC

    Hi there!
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    Quote from: sp4wners on 15-September-09, 23:25:30
    Also if I want to overclock my CPU should I change something on that switch on the motherboard? I think it's called CPU_CLK1 the red one with white switches.
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    Quote from: sp4wners on 15-September-09, 23:25:30
    I tried to set them at 1600MHz 8-8-8-28 (crash) 9-9-9-28 (crash) :/ And I need some help with CPU.
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    Quote from: sp4wners on 15-September-09, 23:25:30
    Oh I almost forgot... Why my mobo recognize my RAM as 1066MHz? :/
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  • MSI Eclipse SLI and USB ports

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    I have reinstalled Windows 7 fresh with formatting HD
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    Hey thanks for your advice, but I am actually not THAT stupid...  :D
    I took a step by step approach over 2 days, isolating things. It would run stable at 2,250 MHz with only a notch or two up the VCore. 2,400 MHz also ran Orthos stable (Blend) for some hours but crashed on instant in HL2 or 3DMark. Got at least 3DMark stable (but not HL2) by increasing the NB voltage. Then I started tweaking first VCore only, then NB only, combinations (there are quite a few to try out...). I studied electrical engineering and am repairing computers since I was 12 years old (actually build my first Commodore C64 out of 3 non working ones) so I think I know how to sort out a problem methodically and not by guessing.
    The issues I experienced also got me thinking. Why is something Orthos, Prime, etc. stable as a rock but won´t run anything with 3D-graphics? What has that to do with OC the CPU? RAM was sorted out (relaxed timings, 533 MHz with 800 MHz RAM), but looking at some chipset diagramms in tests, it is the northbridge, which connects the PCI-E and therefore the GPU to the CPU. So it was only logical for me to assume that it must be the NB or the BIOS implementation causing the problem. Of course i tested with all different NB voltage options, combinations with VCore etc. Nothing worked, curiously even turning off some powersaving features but changing nothing else prevented the system from posting at settings it had booted to windows before...
    Even if I am pleased with my results now (3,015 GHz now at stock voltages rock solid throughout the day) I find the behaviour of the board and the BIOS very strange in the 240+ FSB range with the E4300...
    PS: I tested it, it even works flawlessly with maxxed NB voltage at the current 3,015 GHz, which falsifies your too high voltage at a certain power requirement theory, at least for my board. Don´t missunderstand me, I am not posting this just to be right but I think this should be quite interesting and perhaps give some more insight into the problems with this board... 
    I am going to bed now, having an exam tomorrow.
    Greetings from northern germany,
    Bolle

  • Msi eclipse sli 7520 voltage problem above 25x

    its all good and well that theres so many beta bios shame none of them make the sli a great bored
    it needs a bios where you set your votage in the bios and it stays as you have set
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    http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss6/evocarlos1/?action=view&current=09102009003.flv

    Okay.  I suggest you contact MSI Technical Support about the issue (both of you for the respective mainboard):
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    I wanted to make sure the issue is not tied to the Base Clock Frequency.  Now you can base your problem report solely on the Multiplier of the Extreme Edition Processor (whose whole point is that the Multiplier is adjustable).  Evocarlos, maybe you can make another video clip that shows the VCore issue @133 x 25 and post a link here.  You can then point the support to this thread and/or to your video clip. 
    Sometimes the technical Supporters have a tendency to consider OC related issues as minor problems that are tied to operating the system beyond specifications and tell you "we suggest, you do not overclock your system for best stability etc.".  However, in this case it is pretty clear that the problem is not tied to changing the actual base clock frequency of the board but to the fact that a supported processor and its officially supported feature (increasing the ratio) is not fully supported after all.  Base your arguement on that and I think they should be willing to take a look at this immediately. 

  • MSI Eclipse SLI (iX58 - S1366)

     
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    atm I have a EVGA 295 GTX (2x dvi 1x HDMI ) but I cant use them 3 ports .. otherwise he disables the sli,I know have --> 22inch TFT + 37 inch samsung TV bot connected DVI) but I want .. lol 2x 22 tft and the TV
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    Jeeej got it to work.. now my 295 died on me.. well.. it overheated.. :p 2 gfx cards generates allot of heat.. gonna try to cool the 2 hotheads with 5 x 120x 25 mm fans..lol 

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