Hadrware load balancing for WLS 5.1

Rather than using the proxy plug-in to determine which server to dispatch a request to in case of failover, I would like to use hardware load balancer. So on normal conditions, the load-balancer would look at the primary server in the cookie and route the request accordingly. If it gets no response, it would reexamine the cookie and forward the request to the secondary server holding the state.
          Has anybody done this? Which hardware load balancer were you using? Is there a definitive spec for the weblogic cookie so that we can try configuring the load balancer? (in the BEA docs I can only find info about the position of the primary server in the cookie).
          Thanks, Matt
          

http://e-docs.bea.com/wls/docs60/cluster/servlet.html#1008984
          -- Anand
          "Mark Vaughn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
          news:[email protected]...
          >
          > Even with WLS 6.1, how will the hardware load balancer know who the
          secondary server
          > is when it needs to failover a session? For example, in a 3 member
          cluster, when
          > server one dies, how does the HLB know whether server 2 or server 3 were
          defined
          > as the secondary for that session. Unless something has changes in WLS6.1,
          there
          > is only one primary and only one secondary.
          >
          > Matt, I use Foundry ServerIrons to load balance my iPlanet webservers, but
          I strongly
          > suggest the Weblogic plugin if you will be using a 3rd party webserver in
          front
          > of WebLogic. That plugin has all kinds of debug settings and extra
          features that
          > allow it to communicate with the background WLS cluster. That allows it to
          make
          > decisions and deliver performance no HLB will give you. Don't get me
          wrong, HLB's
          > have there place and deliver some really good features, but that is not a
          place
          > I would consider using one.
          >
          >
          > Kumar Allamraju <[email protected]> wrote:
          > ><!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
          > ><html>
          > >Hi:
          > ><p>WLS 5.1 clustering is not designed to work with Hardware load
          balancers.
          > ><br>I would suggest you to try with WLS 6.1
          > ><p>--
          > ><br>Kumar
          > ><p>Matt Hudson wrote:
          > ><blockquote TYPE=CITE>Rather than using the proxy plug-in to determine
          > >which server to dispatch a request to in case of failover, I would like
          > >to use hardware load balancer. So on normal conditions, the load-balancer
          > >would look at the primary server in the cookie and route the request
          > >accordingly.
          > >If it gets no response, it would reexamine the cookie and forward the
          > >request
          > >to the secondary server holding the state.
          > ><p>Has anybody done this? Which hardware load balancer were you
          > >using?
          > >Is there a definitive spec for the weblogic cookie so that we can try
          > >configuring
          > >the load balancer? (in the BEA docs I can only find info about the
          position
          > >of the primary server in the cookie).
          > ><p>Thanks, Matt</blockquote>
          > ></html>
          > >
          >
          

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