Having to render everything

I'm having to spend a lot of time waiting for every clip dragged to the timeline to be rendered before it can be viewed. Anyone else have the same issue? It could be the file format, though it's QT PAL 768x576 25 frames. Converted from a Canon camcorder and I wonder if this might be the root of the problem, though so far everything I've used has produced the same result. My brand new MacBookPro is performing like an old and very stressed out PowerMac. Any help would be much appreciated.

I'm having to spend a lot of time waiting for every clip dragged to the timeline to be rendered before it can be viewed. Anyone else have the same issue?
Lots of users do.
It's because, as you suspect, there is a mis-match of clips and Sequence settings.
Right click a Sequence and select Item Properties to find the Sequence settings, the same can be done for a clip.
QT PAL 768x576 25 frames
Something wrong here, should be 720x576
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Here are differences between the clip and the sequence
vid rate for clip is 29.97 fps, vid rate for sequence is 25 fps
data rate for clip is 8.9 MB/sec, data rate for sequence is blank
alpha for clip is None(Ignore), alpha for sequence is blank
composite for clip is normal, composite for sequnce is blank
audio for clip is 1 Stereo, audio for sequence is 2 outputs
audio format for clip is 16 bit integer, audio format for sequence is 32 bit floating point
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i have some quicktime files which i believe to be dv pal 16:9 anamorphic.
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James
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I'm sorry if my terminology is messed up.
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That your clips when displayed Anamorphic 16:9 are "too fat" suggests that they are not 16:9 at all but in fact they are normal 4:3. (Which again suggests that the person who supplied them to you did not have a clue.)
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Now, when I export to Compressor to make a DVD, it starts re-rendering everything! Not only that, it does not use any of the render files, because I noticed the compressed m2v does not include all the rendering.
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