How differs soft proofing in View - Proof Colors and Save for Web - Preview?

Hi, I'm currently confused with one inconsistency. My working space is Adobe RGB and I use calibrated monitor. After I finish my work on image I go to View -> Proof Colors -> Internet Standard RGB. Image looks terribly with the overall violet/purple hue. Then I open Save for Web dialogue, I check Convert to RGB and from Preview options I select again Internet Standard RGB. Now the previewed image looks as expected. The same results I get if I manually convert image to sRGB before soft proofing and saving for web. So... what's the difference between preview in Proof Colours and in Save for Web? Thank you for your opinions.

Hi 21, thank you for your input. All what you say makes perfect sense, it is exactly how it should work and how I expected it works. My problem was, that while testing this theory in practice, I have come to different results. I expected, that if I stick to the theory (meaning keeping in mind all rules you perfectly described) I should get the same result in both soft proof and save for web preview. But... it was not the case. Save for web preview offered expected results while soft proof was completely out of any assumptions and colours were totally over-saturated with violet/purple hue. Also, Edit -> Assign Profile -> sRGB gave another result then Soft Proof -> Custom -> assign sRGB (preserve numbers), but the same as save for web preview. What troubled me was why this is so.
Today I've made tests on hardware calibrated monitor and... everything works exactly as you describe and as I expected.
Then I went back to another monitor which is software calibrated (both monitors are calibrated with X-Rite i1 Display Pro). And again... I received strange results described above. So I did the last thing I thought and disabled colour calibration on that monitor. And suddenly... both soft proof and save for web preview gave the same result.
Probable conclusion: soft proof and save for web preview (together with Edit -> Assign Profile) are programmed to use different algorithm which is evident on standard gamut monitors with software calibration. Question can be closed.
Gene and 21, thank you for your effort.

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Does anyone know a solution?
Thanks!

Thanks for sharing. First let me say I think it's really great that you have shared all the documentation about these color issues. I read your page before posting here, and I tried each of the suggested solutions, and wasn't able to fix it. Maybe it is a problem with the Mac OS and the way it displays images non-color managed images. But it's not like all the images I view on Firefox are dull-just the ones I've edited, because they appeared different in CS3.
As I mentioned above, I am not the only one who is having this problem, despite trying all of the fixes suggested (see the link to forum thread posted above). I think my next step is to schlep my MacBook over to the Mac store and see if they can verify my monitor profile. But if anyone else has any suggestions, please let me know!
Emily

Color management in Save for Web not working

The Save for Web dialog box in the CS6 Beta is ignoring color profiles, so color is not managed. This has not been a problem in previous versions.

The saved output is just fine. I was referring to the images in the Save for Web dialogue
I just checked my settings. CS6 apparently changed my Preview setting from "Use Document Profile" to "Monitor Color." It also changed my Metadata setting. It should not do that!
Restoring the correct Preview setting solved the color management problem, but ONLY for the Preview image. The Original image is still not color managed.
I'm on a wide-gamut monitor, so sRGB images come out looking garish if there's no color profile embedded or it's ignored. That's what's happening here with the Original image in Save for Web. I imported an sRGB image with profile embedded, and it looks just fine in Photoshop while editing. Then I went to Save for Web, with the settings Embed Color Profile, Convert to sRGB, and Preview: Use Document Profile. The JPEG preview too looks just fine with these settings, but the Original looks garish, showing a lack of color management. The color in the two views is showing as completely different, though they both represent the same image with the same color profile embedded.
Going back to CS5, the same image is properly color managed in both Original and Preview. Both images show identical color, as they should.

How differs soft proofing in View - Proof Colors and Save for Web - Preview?

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