How do I extend my Airport Extreme version 5.7 for better wireless at a distance?
From my researching of this problem, it seems like I may need to "extend" my Airport Extreme version 5.7 to strengthen my signal at a distance. It is used, but I was able to reset and set it up to my network. The previous user was getting much better performance. When at my desk, right next to the router and Airport Express, I get up to 19Mbps. At a distance of 30-50 ft. (which I often use) wirelessly, I can only get up to 4Mbps. Will "extending" the Airport help those speeds and strengthen the connection so as not to burden it even farther with 3 users connected to the network or is there something else that I can do? Am I just being picky? I am an Apple novice and have read everything I can to figure out my problems, but this one is still lingering. Problem or not?
Info: if needed
Airport Extreme v 5.7 - only one as a base station
Wireless network with ZyXel Q1000 router - Airport Extreme is connected to that via ethernet cable.
I use a Toshiba Satellite laptop, less than a year old running Windows 7.
Often work about 30-50 feet away wirelessly and speeds are up to par without Airport Extreme, got it to strengthen signal as another user will be added to my network shortly. Speeds at a distance 4Mbps or less. Next to router and Airport 19 Mbps.
I have Century Link 20Mbps high speed internet service.
Airport "dome" has three lights on top. Middle is steady green and the two on each side periodically blink white.
Successfully set up using airport utility for PC. It shows up on that list and on my wireless connection list.
Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions or positive comments.
david
badboyfun - apple novice.
I'm having a bit of trouble confirming that the ZyXEL is a combination modem & wireless-N router. If it is, then you really won't get any advantages of using the 802.11g AirPort.
If the range of your ZyXEL is limited, you may find that doing either or both of the following will help: 1) Move the ZyXEL so that it is higher vs. lower in the room, that is away from any closed areas or placed in a metal cabinet, and 2) Changing radio channels. The latter is especially important in you live in an area where there are a number of competing Wi-Fi.
A good utility to find out, is iStumbler. You would use this to find these other Wi-Fi and find which have the strongest signal value. Those that do, you would also want to note which channel they are operating on, and then, change yours to one that is at least 3-5 channels away. So, for example, if you find strong ones on channels 1 & 6, change yours to 11.
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