How to find "Archive and Install" after Tiger reinstall?

I have recently reinstalled Tiger and have gone what I believe is the right steps for Archiving. Now I didn't know that is would effect the current programs on my computer like it has. Many will now not work properly or even open at all. Are these files or the information for the programs somewhere else? If so How do I find then and get back the programs like they used to be?
Thanks,
Dave

Details are in http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120

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Trouble with Archive and Install of Tiger 10.4.6

During a Software Update of QuickTime 7.5 I ran into multiple problems:
1. Iphoto would not import from any souce.
2. Safari quit when I used the Bookmark menu.
3. Itunes won't show any graphics.
4. Others I haven't run into yet?
I tried repairing permissions, then I downloaded the Quicktime 7.5 and tried to install, the installation quit.
I tried re-installing Iphoto from my ILife 06 disk, still could not import.
I tried to do an Archive and Install from my Tiger 10.4.6 DVD, the installatiion quit, said retry. I repaired permissions using the Tiger install DVD, the tried to do an Archive and Install again, but it quit during the installation.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Could be many things, we should start with this...
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc that came with your computer, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Click the disclosure triangle to the left of the hard drive icon to display the names of your hard disk volumes and partitions.
5. Select your Mac OS X volume.
6. Click Repair. Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
Then Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot.
The usual reason why updates fail or mess things up, is if Permissions are not fixed before & after every update, with a reboot... you may get a partial update when the installer finds it doesn't have Permissions to change one obscure little part of the OS, leaving you with a mix of OS versions.
Some people get away without Repairing Permissions for years, some for only days.
If Permissions are wrong before applying an update, you could get mixed OS versions, if Directory is the slightest messed up, who knows!
If many Permission are repaired, or any Directory errors are found, you may need to re-apply some the latest/biggest updates.
How much free space do you have on what size HD?

Error at the end of Archive and Install; Need Quicktime reinstall quickly!

I got all the way through an Archive and Install and at the very end it said there was an error in the process. Everytime I do it, same thing.
I'm trying to reinstall Quicktime 6 because I've read Final Cut Pro 4 doesn't work well with QT 7—I downloaded it recently. FPC performance has been horrible ever since!
I followed the easy step by step process Apple provides for Archive and Install but it doesn't work in the end. I'm trying to reinstall Quicktime 6. Currently working with 10.3.9. My original disks are 10.3.
I'm running off the original disks; don't know why it won't do it.
Need Quicktime reinstall quickly!

I already had, the problem is not covered on that page.
I'd had no response within a few hours so I had to force the Powerbook to shut down. On rebooting, it only got as far as the Apple logo and the progress wheel. I left it for half an hour and it got no further. I reset the PRAM again (I'd already done it before the actions detailed in the original post). Nothing. I tried again to Safe Boot. Nothing - not even the login screen.
I then tried to re-install OS X 10.5 - this time the option to 'update' was available which I did. It automatically restarted but still would not proceed beyond the Apple logo and progress wheel.
That's how things stand now. I have given up for the day but I can't think of any other course of action apart from a complete erase and install but that would be far to drastic because unfortunately, despite my insistence last time there were problems, nothing has been backed up.
Incidentally, I tried to boot in target mode to recover their account folder - the disk mounted on my MacBook Pro but when I tried to open it, my Finder crashed.

Where is mail stored after archive and install?

Hello All,
I need to know where my old mails are stored after archive and install. To give a bit of background... This is a work computer. Its a MacMini which came with 10.4 installed. Before I joined the company boss upgraded to Leopard and thats what I have been using all this time. Recently it blue screened and I had to do an archive and install after trying various other options.
I only had the original install discs with 10.4 in them and not the Leopard discs. Since I needed to my computer up and running, I used those discs and did an archive and install.
I have all my old documents, etc but I couldn't open mail from the previous systems folder because its a different OS.
Is it possible to retrieve my old emails without having to install Leopard again?
Any help is appreciated.

When I started the computer up, instead of the login page with the account names coming up, there was just a blue screen. There are lots of articles that gave suggestions to try but nothing worked so I had to archive and install.

Archive and Install limbo (G4)

I tried, all too long ago (actually, over the past couple of weeks) to do a full Archive and Install for Tiger on my G4 Sawtooth. I had originally installed the OS from disks (CDs) that I bought from what I thought was a reputed dealer. What I didn't know is that the disks were not the real Apple ones. Instead of being black, they are white, with a grey X on each.
I managed to install Disk 1 successfully (though it restarted at the end). That left on my hard drive just the folder called System that is within the System folder that holds all the OS components. When I tried to install Disk 2, it sometimes seemed to install all the components on the disk and sometimes only some, but it always ended in a message saying that errors were found and I needed to try reinstalling. I never get beyond that point. Now I'm in a limbo without a System that I can boot to and the ability just to get out and try to reinstall from a legitimate DVD of Tiger that I got this week. All I want to so is get rid of the stuff that was deposited on my hard drive. Until I can do that, I'm stuck with the error message. I can't even shut down the computer! It doesn't know that I have a system on it.
I can boot the computer into 9.2.2, but only with a repair disk that was lent to me by a computer repair place here in New York. I had hoped that I'd be able to boot up from the Tiger DVD, but that can't work while I have to use the CD/DVD drive to get into anything but the error message I mentioned above. Also, for some reason there is no sign of my Documents Folder, which has almost all of my files, nor any other OS X folder (except that System one that is usually embedded in the larger System one). I hope they are not gone forever.
There also is a folder called Previous System 1. That is the one that was on the computer before I started the Archive and Install process. I wondered what would happen if I renamed the folder that was installed by the Tiger Disk 1 and the Previous System folder, but I am afraid to try.
How to deal with this? By the way I have all the necessary software for OS 9, and now I have the new, legitimate Tiger DVD—though I can't boot from that nor do anything else with it until my computer recognizes that it has a hard drive and a System. If it would help, I could reinstall OS 9.2.2, but where would I go from there? And would it help, anyway?
A friend suggested removing the battery and resetting the PMU. I don't know whether that will do the trick.
I hope that you can help me. I'm kind of frazzled, after days and days of trying to do a full Archive and Install. Thank you very much, in advance.
Jenny

Thanks, but the firmware was updated, and I was already using 10.4.11. I managed to get back to OS 9.2.2, somehow, so I can use the computer a bit, but I don't have access to some of the data I had with Tiger. I really want to reinstall Tiger, and I'd be willing to get legitimate Tiger disks (so angry that I was rooked into buying the ones with the grey "X"), but:
1. Would it work?
2. Where would I get them? Clearly, I have no serial number for the disks, because they weren't real Apple ones (as I said, I didn't know that), so I doubt that Apple would help me. All I want is to get Tiger back.
I see, from this discussion group, that I am not unique in getting stuck on Disk 2, so maybe it's a problem with software and not my Mac. I don't know.
I've been working with a Mac guru of sorts, but we tried all kinds of things (taking battery out and doing the CUDA thing, for example, trying to do an install from Firewire, etc.). He even sent me a copy of a Tiger DVD to try. It didn't boot the G4 or even mount on the desktop, despite the fact that I can play other DVDs just fine. My G4 DVD drive spat it out, and my G3 laptop first was able to mount it and then boot it, but attempts at installation failed, with the computer hanging after installation started. Then the G3 also refused to accept the Tiger install DVD. Very mysterious, all of it.
I had already used Disk Warrior and the 9.2.2 version of Disk First Aid. That latter I did when the G4 was booted from a 9.2.2 troubleshooting CD from a place that repairs computers. (They gave it to me on another occasion, before I used Tiger.) I continued until no need for repairs was reported.
My guru seems to be out of options, and he is convinced that the Tiger disk he so kindly sent me has no problems on it. I am not altogether sure. Why, else, would my DVD drive willingly play whatever else I put into it but spit out that disk? Oh, well. I think the two of us are out of options. If anyone here has others, I would happily try them.
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Archive and install slowing down?

When I installed Leopard I chose Archive and install after two failed Updates with BSOD, now it's working fine but sometimes I think it's not as fast and responsive as it should be.
Could archive and install be slowing it down?
Thanks

If you have a spare external hard drive you can copy the old system folder to it (or burn it to DVD) and then toss it, though I doubt it has anything to do with the old system.
Check "Activity Monitor" to see if there are any applications that are using a large amount of CPU time or percentage. Sometimes various applications will take off on using the CPU (the Finder has done it once or twice for me) and need to be relaunched.

Archive and Install- Are Desktop Files saved?

I am considering doing an "Archive and Install" after a recent kernel panic but have a lot of important files on my desktop. Will all of the files on the desktop be saved? I have already ready this artice http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120. I am just looking for a specific answer about the desktop folder within the /users folder.
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Thanks everyone, I actually used this method to fix the problem and everything is working great now...
http://www.macfixitforums.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=tiger&Number=828648&page=0 &view=&sb=&o=&fpart=1&vc=1&PHPSESSID=

Archive and Install - how to move ahead after Leopard is in...

After a long and frustrating day installing Leopard on my MacBook Pro (five months old), I finally have it up and running but don't know how I should recover settings and documents from my archived files. As per Apple's advice, I did the archive and install without preserving settings.
Actually, documents are fairly straightforward, but what about Entourage data (emails, addresses, etc.) and Firefox settings, etc. Do I need to drag the old Applications, Librart, System, and User fils (from Previous Systems folder) into the new Finder under Leopard?
Also, will applications like Photoshop, Lightroom, etc. need to be reinstalled?
Please advise.
Thanks very much.
Regards,
Tom

I have a similar problem with Leopard's archive and install. No only did I have difficulty locating photos, music, etc. but I found that I didn't have "permission" to move them from the archive. I then with through the permission process giving myself access to everything on my Macintosh partition. (I have an iMac with both Mac Tiger and Windows XP on separate partitions). Only now I can't even get the Mac part of my computer to open at all! To be continued - - -.

Finder not responding after Archive and install

I recently encountered my first problem ever with my mac(new in '05) This is the first mac I have owned; I have worked on G3's and G4's in the past. After reading through many message boards and support pages I don't believe my problem to be similar but different to previous posts.
My problem started off with an OS problem that I was able to diagnose in the "help" book I purchased when Leopard came out. It said I should Archive and Install to remedy the problem and keep my files. I ran the archive the install (it gave me no options to preserve user or network settings). After Archive and install my computer started up alright, but I got the permanent beachball and the finder does not work. it is constantly non responsive. I can relaunch finder, but after it restarts it goes non responsive immediately once again. So I can't actually access my "previous system" folder to move anything over. I checked my dock items and finder, they opened, but my itunes asked for an update. I list of update items came up; I did the non-restart items first. they updated fine, (my itunes old itunes playlists are viewable but not playable now) then I did the items that required a restart. That is when I found out that I could not shut down or restart my computer with std. procedures.
Currently I can only access my spotlight or apple pull down menu if I am in a functioning dock program (safari or itunes, quicktime. etc.) after reading some more support pages it looked like the common thing to do was check permissions and verify disk. I did, I repaired two permissions and the disk was OK. I did look at the HD files, they were as I remembered, but unaccessible (greyed out) and the "previous system" folder was present. +It didn't look like I would expect. The HD looked same as it used to just with a previous system folder.+ After checking the permissions and verified the disk I tried a hard restart. It came back the same as before, unresponsive finder and only the few dock items worked along with spotlight. I checked permissions and disk verify again and everything was OK.
Sorry to be long winded I am trying to be thorough...In short, My finder does not work after doing an Archive and Install to fix my original problem (which has been fixed)...the remedy for an unresponsive finder is to do an archive and install. Is another archive and install really going to fix my problem? Can I archive and install OSX 10.4 and work my way back up to 10.5.6?
Secondly is there a way to restart my computer without doing another hard restart?

It won't let me add a new account. I am locked out and when I try to unlock it gives me the beachball and becomes non responsive after it tries to authenticate.
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How can I add users after archive and install

Hi Gang,
I had a crash on Sunday and had to do an archive and install to get this computer back up and running.
It's a PowerBook G4 and I am running 10.4.
I reinstalled from my OS X 10.4 disc. After the install, the Login screen had none of my families user names. I had to go back to the disc and create a new password for a System Administrator.
I did a software update to OS X 10.11.
I am in now and can see the "Users" folder with everyone in it, but I can't figure out how to move it back into the system.
Please help.
Thanks,
Tom

Hi Gang,
If you go to "Users" in System Preferences, and add the user with the same name, it found the user and asked me if I wanted to import the data.
It worked beautifully.
Thanks,
Tom

How do I get my addresses back after an Archive and Install procedure?

I recently had to archive and install because something was really wrong with my desktop. Now the desktop works fine but how do I get my address book application to open with all my former data in it? The address book application opens but there is NOTHING in it except apple's card and my user card? What I am asking is how to restore all my data after an archive and install procedure. Thank you in advance!

whatrulookinat wrote:
Yes I archived and installed with the disk that came with my MBP and then reinstalled snow leopard and then did software upgrades....
you shouldn't have done that. if you wanted to reinstall snow leopard (why btw?) you should have just reinstalled it over the existing snow leopard installation directly. installing an older OS version over the newer one ( like leopard over snow) is not recommended by apple and can lead to problems. it also does not let you preserve users. your old home directory should be located inside the Previous system folder. see this link on how to extract your data from it.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2196
specifically, for the address book you need to copy the folder homedirectory/library/application support/address book from the archived home directory to the corresponding location on the new one.

How do I restore previous settings after archive and install?

I had to do an archive and install (with the box unchecked about users) on Friday after I had a kernel panic issue, but now I don't know if there is a way to restore my previous settings and access my previous files. I found the "previous system" folders, but it restricts my access to almost all of the folders, and I can't even find all of my music (iTunes) files or my stickies. I also can't find all of my bookmarks and internet settings. I'm totally panicked...there is a lot of information for my business that I really can't afford to lose. Please help me!

See the following:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107297.
The following can also apply to locating and moving data from a Previous System Folder. The "Home" folder will be /Users/shortname/ where "shortname" is the user account name you created.
Because you did not transfer the users accounts when you did the Archive and Install you may have created a new user account and password that is not the same as the one you previously used. This means the PSF has different permissions associated with it.
<font "size=+1">Folders You Can Move to Your new Mac
From the Home folder copy the contents of Documents, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Sites.
In your /Home/Library/ folder:
/Home/Library/Application Support/AddressBook (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Application Support/iCal (copy the whole folder)
Also in /Home/Library/Application Support (copy whatever else you need including folders for any third-party applications)
/Home/Library/Keychains (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Mail (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist (* This is a very important file which contains all email account settings and general mail preferences.)
/Home/Library/Preferences/ copy any preferences needed for third-party applications
/Home /Library/iTunes (copy the whole folder)
/Home /Library/Safari (copy the whole folder)
If you want cookies:
/Home/Library/Cookies/Cookies.plist
/Home/Library/Application Support/WebFoundation/HTTPCookies.plist
For Entourage users:
Entourage is in /Home/Documents/Microsoft User Data
Also in /Home/Library/Preferences/Microsoft
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Where to find after "Archive and Install"

Hi everyone. I recently installed Leopard onto my Macbook. During the process, I used the archive and install feature to save all of my old data and files. Right now everything is located in the "Previous System" folder on my hard drive. I am trying to find my iCal information, but don't know where it's located. Does anyone know?
I didn't backup any of my calendars. I didn't think I would have to since all the information should already be saved.

aimili,
If you actually accomplished an Archive and Install, you should be able to open iCal and the previous calendar information will populate your upgraded iCal. What calendar information is displayed in iCal when you open the application?
If your old calendars are not displayed you should be able to find your previous information in folders named something like 4A1DC586-14EC-4D42-B659-BEBA31968385.calendar in the Users/yourusername/Library/Application Support/iCal/Sources Folder of your previous system folder. There will be as many of these folders as you had calendars on the previous system, but they will have different alpha numeric names on your computer than the example which I just gave you.
Open these oddly named folders and you will find the corestorage.ics files containing your former calendars.
Use iCal to import the corestorage files by using the iCal>File>Import... menu command to navigate to and import the appropriate corestorage.ics file for each of your calendars.
Did you ever use .Mac? If so, you may also have calendar information that can be retrieved from that service.
;~)

How do I do back to previous system folder after archive and install?

Did an archive and install (retaining my existing user account), only to discover it was unnecessary. (Turns out the problem was hardware-related.)
How do I go back to using my previous system folder?

FloydianSlip wrote:
Huh. Hardly seems to be worth "archiving" if you can't go back to the archive.
The purpose of an *Archive & Install* is to install a fresh, known-good copy of the OS, while preserving in the archive all the files from the previous copy of the installed OS that you might potentially need for some reason. (This is why it is called an Archive & Install.)
However, since any of these archived files might have been damaged in some way since they were installed or created, or in some way conflict with a freshly installed OS, they cannot be considered "known-good" without further testing & should not be reintroduced haphazardly into the "live" system.
The value of this install method should be obvious if you consider that if the OS is sufficiently damaged it will not run the computer, either at all or well enough to recover from whatever damage is done. Without this option, you would have to erase the existing startup disk completely (with the *Erase & Install* method), losing everything created or installed besides what is contained in the OS installer.
The closest equivalents to the kind of archive that you can "go back to" are cloning the entire drive or using the 'restore from Time Machine' option from the installer DVD's Utilities menu, assuming you use Time Machine.

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