How to init delta

Hello Experts ,
A cube is fetching data from CRM datasource.full loads are carried out daily.
Now as it is taking lot of time to load every day.We need to initialize DELTA now.
Can you please tell me how to init delta for that full load IP ??
Points will be assigned.
Thank You

Hi KV,
check these
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/a7ba9523-0b01-0010-18ab-cf8b3b8c374a
Re: Deletion of existing request in Cube
Re: Deleting the most recent request of Infopackage
Pseudo delta
Regards,
Vijay.

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