How to Re-execute the Credit Memo Workflow?

Hi! Folks,
This is a problem which I am facing @ the client site....
Actually, I am assigned with a Credit Memo Workflow.
Here, if the Credit Memo is created i.e. if CREATED (BO BUS2094) Event is triggered the workflow is working fine.
But as per the requirement if they want to change the Credit Memo using VA02 tcode and if the Net Value is changed I mean if it is greater than some specific value i need to re-execute the workflow (approval process)
As for your information, I have copied the Standard Workflow Template 20000009 & 20000019 also I have checked with Event Linkage and other workflow stuffs.
But my main query here is that while the Credit Memo is changed, CHANGED (BO BUS2094) Event gets triggered but with Receiver Type SUBSCRIBE along with error 'CHECK FM with Exception' with Message 'No Configuration for Workflow WS90400201 version 003'
(Here WS90400201 with version 003 is my custom workflow template (copy of WS20000019))
Also, I want to know is there any Functional Configuration missing out because I have referred help documentation and found that this re-execution of workflow (WS20000019) is automatic.
Just kindly let me know if any part is missed out in configuration
Please, guys revert to the earliest.
Regards,
Mistry Wasim

Hi! guys,
Please reply with your valuable guidelines to this problem.
Regards,
Mistry Wasim

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    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a6620507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
    http://www.sappoint.com/presentation.html
    http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_search.html
    http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
    http://www.erpgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
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    http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
    http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/78/217da751ce11d189570000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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    http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
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  • Proper sheet name for Excel export

    In CR 8.x, name of the Excel worksheet did correspond to the name of the report file. Same report in CR 2008 when exported keeps default sheet name as "Sheet1" Is it possible to have report file name being used instead as it was before?