HT201071 A6000 RAW support OS 10.9 and Aperture

Bought the sony A6000 but the ARW ( Raw format ) is not recognized by iphoto, Aperture....
My NEX5N , no problem at all, any update ?

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How long does it usually take to get added raw support (nex5n)? i pretty much just use aperture 3 and love it but why does lightroom from adobe seem to get raw support faster than Apple's Aperture 3. Also FCPX lacks v Adobe on 60p.

How long does it usually take to get raw support for Aperture 3? Is it slowed by Apple or camera company. I only ask because Lightroom has support for nex5n raw but Aperture 3 does not. Also direct import into Adobe premiere and ability to edit in 60p. However, support for 60 p not as easily worked with in FCPX. I am just surprised Apple does not keep pace with these type of updates that Adobe does. Don't get me wrong I love and use Apple software when I can but I wish Apple was ahead of adobe in getting this support. I guess more of a vent than a question.

Yes, more of a vent.
FWIW I agree.
Camera companies keep RAW specs confidential so firms like Apple and Adobe have to (sort of) reverse-engineer to develop RAW converters for each new camera. The good news is to my eyes/brain Apple usually does a slightly better job at it than Adobe does. The best RAW conversions (logically) come from the camera manufacturers.
Apple gives up market share with slow support for new cameras. IMO really DUMB. It has at least been improving...
-Allen

Camera RAW support 2.2 update and Nikon .NEF unsupported image format

Hi,
I Use a Nikon D2x and only take raw images (.NEF file)
After I update from RAW support 2.1.1 update to RAW support 2.2 update, all my raw image file (.NEF file) taken before 13th September 2006 ! would not display - In the Aperture program, if i navigate to a project / folder and clicked on a thumb nail in the browser, I get a magenta / cyan screen showing in the main viewer panel with unsupported image format. ?
This is my worst-case scenario ! - I have entrusted Aperture with all my digital images (all raw .NEF) images taken before 13th September 2006 are un accessible with camera RAW support 2.2 update installed !
I have deleted (the 2.2 update) “from” System/Library/CoreServices/RawCamera.bundle and reinstall the RAW support 2.1.1 update.
* NOW I can now see all my raw Nikon .NEF images and they are now all fully functional again *.
Their is a problem with the Apple digital camera RAW support 2.2 update, it rendered the Aperture program useless to me for my older .NEF image/files (as above).
This requires a fix ASAP
Martin

Thankfully, I wasn't affected by the issue given I'm currently with Canon. There have been Canon woes in the past though.
On a side note, I never update anything until it has been out for a few weeks just to be sure. Because Aperture is such an integral component of my studio and business, I make sure everything always works before making any updates or changes - including upgrading cameras.
I'm sure the next update will fix the magenta issues.
Best,
CD

RAW Support for Sigma Merrill and Sony RX-1

When does Adobe expect to be able to provide RAW support for the Sigma X3F files produced by the DPxMs and the SD-1/SD-1M? I am also interested in RAW support for the soon to be released Sony RX-1 Cybershot FF camera. Thank you for the time and response.

Thanks for the information. As you can probably tell I haven't posted here before. It's where Adobe's FAQ section sent me to "Ask a Question." Therefore, I thought it was the place Adobe looked to for feedback on what customers wanted. I'm not sure why future camera support should be such a secret. In the case of the RX-1, I suspect they will have it fairly quickly as there will be many phtographer's asking for it. In the case of the Sigma's, I suspect that since the cameras have been out for a while now that they are waiting to see how much demand there is for support. The DPxMs are receiving very good reviews for their image quality and it is well deserved in my opinion. I haven't seen the output from any camera that can match it for detail below the Nikon d800 or the Canon 5D MK III and even then it is very close at ISO 100-200. I was surprised at how good 800 ISO can look with these cameras when the tif file is processed in LR 4.2. A comparison of the .jpg processed for best image and the .tif processed for best image in LR 4.2 both at 50%. The .tif cleans up very nicely while preserving significant detail.

New Camera Raw Update for iPhoto 09 and Aperture 3

Adds support for
* Canon EOS Rebel T2i / 550D / Kiss X4
* Leica S2
* Olympus E-450
* Olympus E-600
* Olympus E-620
* Sony Alpha DSLR-A230
* Sony Alpha DSLR-A330
* Sony Alpha DSLR-A380
* Sony Alpha DSLR-A450
It also addresses RAW processing issues for the following cameras:
* Canon EOS 30D
* Pentax K-x
* Pentax K-7
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1035
Regards
TD

This appears to be Intel ONLY. Neither of my G5s can install the update, nor does it show up in Software Update on those machines.
On my daughters Intel iMac, it shows up in Software Update and it installs perfectly well from the stand-alone installer.
I waited and waited for support for my Olympus E-620, Bah!

New Camera Raw Update for iPhoto 11 and Aperture 3

This update adds RAW image compatibility for the following cameras to Aperture 3 and iPhoto '11:
Fujifilm FinePix X100
Nikon D5100
Olympus E-PL2
Olympus XZ-1
Samsung GX-1S
For more information on supported RAW formats, see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3825

This appears to be Intel ONLY. Neither of my G5s can install the update, nor does it show up in Software Update on those machines.
On my daughters Intel iMac, it shows up in Software Update and it installs perfectly well from the stand-alone installer.
I waited and waited for support for my Olympus E-620, Bah!

No RAW Support for Nikon D5100 in Aperture 3.1.2 - any ideas of an update soon? I am only using the Aperture 3 as a Trial.

Anybody know if Apple is releasing a new update to support the new Nikon D5100 yet? I am on the Aperture 30-day trial right now. Thanks.

We do not know. Sorry.
You can shoot RAW+JPEG and use the JPEG files for now. Or go through Adobe ACR and convert to DNG. Or use Nikon NX2 or Adobe Lightroom that will convert D5100 RAW files.
-Allen

Aperture and RAW support with Canon EOS 60D

Got my new Canon EOS 60D yesterday. But Aperture does not support the new RAW photos from the EOS 60D yet.
Anyone with the same problem?
When is Apple updating the RAW support for the 60D in Aperture?

Well, DNGs don't actually contain all the data of the original raw file, so that could be an issue.
As an example, the focus point functionality of Aperture 3.0 doesn't work with files converted to DNG, as the camera-specific information has been stripped from the file by Adobe. I don't know whether the DNG format can actually hold that info or not, but as of today it doesn't.
Apple historically has tended to support the new SLR cameras from Canon and Nikon, so I wouldn't be surprised if support came along shortly. That said, buying a camera the day it's available and expecting immediate support for its raw format is not all that reasonable. The vendors providing raw support don't necessarily have access to pre-release versions of the cameras (in general), so there's going to be some time necessary to develop and QA the support for the new format.

Will Aperture 3.6 eventually provide raw support to Sony a5100

I have an iMac running OS X Maverick 10,9,5, and currently use Aperture 3.5.1 with all of its latest RAW updates. I am considering updating to Yosemite to get Aperture 3.6. I note that so far 3.6 does not provide RAW support to the Sony a5100. Lightroom does have RAW support for this camera, and I can get Lightroom and keep Maverick. However, I like Aperture and would like to continue using it. But will the new version on Yosemite ever get RAW support for my camera? I also see from other posts that many are having problems with both Yosemite and with Aperture 3.6. I would need some reassurance before taking the step to a new OS X. I need some advice about what to do.
Thanks

But will the new version on Yosemite ever get RAW support for my camera?
We cannot tell you this, but any new Raw Support will most likely only be available on Yosemite.
The latest Digital Raw Compatibility Update was only for Yosemite, Aperture 3.6, and iPhoto 9., see: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1777?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
I need some advice about what to do.
Upgrade, but don't burn your bridges. I'd keep a full TimeMachine backup or a bootable clone of your system as it is now, so you can easily revert to the previous version.

How can anyone buy new model cameras without RAW support forecasts?

If a person wants to buy a camera and wants to use Aperture, what can they do? I'm sure I want to shoot RAW images, and I'm sure I want to use Aperture, but how does one buy a new model camera when they don't know what drivers Apple is working on adding?
I bought Aperture2 last spring and learned to use it with JPEGs, hoping to use it to shoot RAW images with a newer camera. I've researched cameras and narrowed the field, but when I went to the list of cameras supported by Aperture3, I was horrified. All of the cameras I chose shoot RAW, but almost none are supported in RAW yet, and there seems to be no evidence that they will. I've worked kind of hard, partly learning Aperture, partly researching RAW cameras, and now I'm kind of in shock.
For example, the Canon t2 just came out - the t1 is covered, but how long until the t2 will be supported? Many of the top bridge cameras I'm considering also appear to be missing from the new Aperture3 list - like the the Sony DSC-HX1, the Panasonic Lumix FX35, and the Fuji S200EXR.
I appreciate the RAW support for familiar models, and I appreciate the DNG conversion connection thing - that helps. But what if Apple never comes out with RAW for my new camera after I've committed to it? Adobe Lightroom RAW support list looks a little longer, but is still not much for new bridge cameras. Why should Apple try to keep pace with Adobe, anyway? Why not have an insanely great list of RAW support? Is it that hard to configure devices before they come out?
I could use some reassurance here.

Thank you all for your insightful feedback.
I originally wrote:
+If a person wants to buy a camera and wants to use Aperture, what can they do?+
Ultimately, I bought a camera that I liked better than any in my price range ($500 or less) that shoots RAW, and is already on Apple's list -- a Canon G11. I want to get a good DSLR later when I can afford one, and then my G11 will make a superb and sturdy "pocketable" camera. The G11's flexible features are already helping me to learn not only about shooting RAW, but about photography in general. The pictures are gorgeous.
I'm using my new camera with Aperture 3, and it's great. I think iPhoto is good for many people, but for those like me who want to do more with their photos, and need a more sophisticated work flow - well, there's not much comparison between them for these purposes, even though they share so many features now (faces, places, et al).
I also wrote:
+For example, the Canon t2 just came out - the t1 is covered, but how long until the t2 will be supported?+
Well, Apple got the EOS t2i raw converters into Aperture faster than I could get this post up. They were very, very quick. The more I learn, the more I see how many mainstream cameras Apple does support, and the more I appreciate the problem of supporting new cameras that Apple faces. But I still hope they keep facing it, and don't let up.
Clearly, there are always interesting cameras coming that may never be supported, and being able to handle RAW images outside Aperture may be some people's reasonable choice.
I came very close to buying several cameras that were unsupported or didn't shoot RAW at all. But I've already seen RAW save my pictures. I accidentally took a group of important photos with no white balance at all (they're pale green). Fortunately, I was shooting JPEG+RAW. The JPEGs are nearly useless, but the RAW photo's adjusted quickly to "just right".
Knowing I can make certain non-destructive edits with RAW files is very liberating. I know if I make a mistake or want to change the image, that there are a few vital parameters I can adjust.
As to my camera selection: I chose the G11 because so many people with real photography experience seemed to respect it so much. In the end, I decided that good image quality was more important than pixels, zoom range, etc. Since I decided to wait to get a DSLR, I wanted a versatile point-and-shoot with a retractable lens that would become, as I said, my second, more portable camera later.
I've experienced the companion Canon software now as well. It's fine, but I like organizing my photos in Aperture better. I especially need stacks, and being able to make major adjustments where I keep my photos is vital to me.
Now, Aperture is working well for me, and the experience is turning out far better than I had expected. I'm now loading directly into Aperture instead of referencing iPhoto, I'm handling raw images from a new, more modern camera, and I'm finally feeling settled and comfortable with my image workflow.

RAW support for Olympus XZ-1?

With the Olympus XZ-1 quickly gaining ground as one of the most popular compact-enthusiast cameras, I'd think Apple would be very keen on getting RAW support for the camera into Aperture. We're going on six months since the camera's release, and still not there. Does anyone have any line, at all, as to if/when this is going to happen?

Keith Barkley wrote:
"much"? Considering that Canon and Nikon have a huge share of the market, it is unlikely that Apple lost very many customers because of this.
What I said was Historically Apple has lost much market share to Adobe Light Room through slow support for important cameras... That does include slow support for new cameras from Nikon and Canon. Why Apple gives up this market share must only be because no one has told Steve it is happening; some VP is not doing his/her job.
-Allen

Aperture 2.x Raw support

Is Aperture 2 still a Apple supported product or has it been made unsupported as of 3.0? Aperture 3.0 now has Raw support for Canon 60D and other cameras but aperture 2.1.4 still refuses to load the files from a Canon 60D even with the latest Raw and security updates installed as of the 10th Nov.
am I forced to spend £80 to upgrade or should I wait for apple to pull their finger out?

CorkyO2 wrote:
The Camera RAW file support listing page has your cameras with two asterisks by them which indicates that Aperture 3 is required:
http://www.apple.com/aperture/specs/raw.html
I could definitely be wrong, but if it were me, I would not count on it.
aha, thanks. I see the double asterisk now
I was looking at the support page describing 10.6.5
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3825
it doesn't mention version-specific support in Aperture as does the page you referenced. I guess an upgrade to v3 is necessary

Aperture update 2.1.3 still no RAW support for Lumix G1

Once again and after posting to Apple development we still have no RAW support for the Panasonic Lumix G1. How much longer Apple...!

RAW support updates are separate from Aperture updates..
Maybe with 10.5.7... or another RAW compatibility update sometime.. hopefuly soon.

RAW support on os x?

Why does os x give so many Raw support? I have only one camera, would't it be easier (less wasted space on the drive) to just have the RAW support for my camera and delet the rest?

Okay, because you know that first post read like you though OS X should offer Raw support for your camera only...
The amount of space required for the Raw support of each camera model is minute, it's mostly entries in a database. You don't need to apply Camera Raw updates unless they apply to a camera you are using. They get rolled into the next OS update anyway.
So, a: you can't dump unwanted Raw profiles and b: you won't save any significant amount of space if you do.
Regards
TD

HT201071 When will RAW support for Pentax K3 be available for OSX and Aperture 3, finally? Really very much waiting for it!!!

When will RAW support for Pentax K3 be available for OSX and Aperture 3, finally? Really very much waiting for it!!!

We're all other users here, so can't answer that question. You can request it by submitting feedback here:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/

HT201071 A6000 RAW support OS 10.9 and Aperture

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